Hi, Pastor Al,
I understand what you're saying and why, but I'm glad to "second"
Larry's experience. Most people have responded with patience to
questions, doubts, and even "risky" IDs, especially when presented
with specific reasons for certain decisions. Those in disagreement
usually provide alternative ideas, with support for those, which has
the effect of broadening one's education.
In the end, it's always possible that the birds will do things that
surprise us, because as someone we know once said, "Birds don't read
the books."
Linda Whyte

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Pastor Al Schirmacher
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Yesterday I spoke with a birder who had a unique sighting.  This birder took 
> substantial notes and is relatively certain about the bird they saw.
>
> However, the sighting will not be shared.
>
> It won't be documented because it would constitute a first state record and 
> the perception is, without photos, it would never be accepted.
>
> It won't be posted to the net because the perception is that people will 
> judge and negatively verbalize about the sighting.
>
> Over the last week I've been together with 30+ birders on my birding vacation 
> and the MOU field trip.  Discussion item #1 was, of course, birds seen & 
> heard.  Discussion item #2 - on multiple occasions (I initiated none of these 
> discussions, many times simply listened) - was the perception that the MN 
> birding community is often not friendly, and that posting unusual birds was a 
> very risky proposition.  A couple of birders mentioned that they've only 
> posted once and never would again.  There is also a perception of elitism and 
> an "old boys club", that only "name" birders records are accepted, formally 
> and informally.
>
> Sad.
>
> I'm not saying each of these accusations are true.  In one sense it really 
> doesn't matter whether the unfriendliness is perception or reality, whether 
> it's a majority or minority or even a very few birders.  The perception is 
> driving behavior.  And the behavior is not sharing sightings, which impacts 
> us all.
>
> The perception needs to be changed.  Minnesota birders, on and off MOU, need 
> to be perceived as and/or become friendly, helpful, welcoming.  Newbies need 
> to be encouraged, publicly and privately.  Back channel emails need to be 
> thought through carefully.  Comments in the field need to show restraint.
>
> I know it can happen, having come from a state where the organization & 
> listserv were generally perceived positively.
>
> By the way, I am not the birder involved, just concerned about the impact 
> (you know me, I share and let chips fall where they may).  And I am extremely 
> thankful for all who have shared and do share - both in MOU and outside - 
> there are many excellent, friendly birders in this state!
>
> Good birding to all.
>
> Al Schirmacher
> Princeton, MN
> Mille Lacs & Sherburne Counties
>
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