-----Original Message-----
From: Stevan Hawkins [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:59 PM
To: '[email protected]'; 'mnbird'
Subject: RE: [mnbird] [mou-net] Potential First State Record Won't Be Shared

Steve:

http://www.texasbirds.org/tbrc/stygowl.htm has photographs and the
particulars about the two Stygian Owl reports that I was able to find in a
few minutes.  Note that both sightings were at a very heavily birded
location, Bentsen-Rio Grande State Park.  Everything tells me that it is
doubtful that these birds were the only ones that have been in the United
States.  My feeling is that they have been on ranches, parks and other wild
areas with similar habitat from the mouth of the Rio Grande to El Paso.
Those other birds may not have been seen or recognized.   

Collared Plover http://www.texasbirds.org/tbrc/collplov.htm was seen for
four days in 1992.  So far as I know, this is the first and only record of
this species for the United States.  This bird that looks like a baby
Killdeer was kind enough to show up at ponds at the Uvalde National Fish
Hatchery.  Those ponds look like any number of stock ponds along the entire
US-Mexico border.  It happened that a Texas Ornithological Society
convention was held on that same weekend.  Presumably one of the field trips
went to the fish hatchery and the bird was found.  If TOS had not had a
field trip to the fish hatchery, would the bird have been recognized?  

Joe Ideker was a source and inspiration for a number of us who birded the
Lower Rio Grande Valley in the 1970s and 1980s.  One time he told me about
how a sighting some friends of his had had.  The couple have moved to
McAllen, Pharr, Weslaco, or one of the area towns from Costa Rica.  When
they saw a bird that they were used to seeing back home, they thought that
it was no big deal.  All it was was a Fork-tailed Flycatcher.  By the time
they got around to telling Mr. Ideker about it, it was a week or a month
after the bird had left.  The net result was that no documentation = no
record.  Just as "If a log falls in the woods and nothing hears it, then no
sound is made", it follows that "If a rare bird is found and nobody
documents it, then as far as science is concerned, it does not exist".

Contrasting example:  On a Thursday in August 1982 I was helping a friend
re-roof his house. The house was near a creek bottom. A hawk had been
circling around the woods along the creek, but I had not paid attention to
it.  Finally when its circling came over my head I saw the undersides of the
first Swallow-tailed Kite that had been at least reported in San Antonio
Texas in 40-60 or more years.  I ran down the ladder facing outwards and got
on the phone to call important people in San Antonio bird records circles,
all of whom laughed at me as they accused me of being drunk or otherwise
intoxicated.

The following Tuesday Vernon Ellis took his wife to a nearby hair salon.
Vernon goes outside to smoke.  The man looks across West Avenue and sees his
Bexar County, possibly lifer, Swallow-tailed Kite flying over the wooded
Aggie Park and the creek that went through it.  The man about has a heart
attack, but calls the same people who had laughed at me.  

The following day he called me.  At first I figured that it was to laugh at
me.  The net results were that we got the last laugh and that a valuable
lesson was learned by lots of people.  After that record this species
started showing up in the area once in a while in the fall during migration.
As to whether not the Texas Bird Records Committee accepted Vernon's and my
bird, I don't know.  That sighting and subsequent sightings of this species
have been included on every subsequent edition of the Bexar County
checklist.  After that Swallow-tailed Kite populations expanded to the point
that on one hawk watch on the coast there were four or five Swallow-tailed
Kites visible at one time.

On the other hand, when someone reported a Red-cockaded Woodpecker on a San
Antonio Christmas Bird Count, the bird was rejected, if only due to the lack
of photographic proof.  In this case the purported species is such an
extreme habitat specialist that finding one in San Antonio was essentially
impossible, at least as far as we on the San Antonio rare birds committee
were concerned in the early 1980s.

One day I glanced at the front page of the McKenzie County Farmer.  The MCF
is the newspaper for McKenzie County, North Dakota.  There was a photo of
"migrating geese", some flying, some on in the water on the front page.  The
ones sitting still were Canada Geese, which nest in McKenzie County.  Two of
the "geese" had what looked like three-foot long necks, making them most
probably Tundra Swans.  Nobody in the county recognized the birds or at
least reported them.  Having learned my lessons from previous conversations
and experience well, I passed on this information to ND-Birds so that the
state committee would have the data point.  

All of these examples should be extended to all checklists and records
committees because similar incidents with other species have occurred almost
certainly everywhere.  Given time and people paying attention to what they
see, birds equally good and glamorous as some of the above can be found
almost everywhere in North America.  If people don't report the bird, then
nobody else can see it and put in their input or otherwise record what was
seen or heard.  No guts means that nobody laughs at the reporter, but no
guts also means that valuable data can be lost.

So, report your data and let them fall where they fall.

Onward!

Steve

Stevan Hawkins
San Antonio TX

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Weston
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:49 AM
To: [email protected]; mnbird
Subject: Re: [mnbird] [mou-net] Potential First State Record Won't Be Shared


There are a couple of issues relating to sharing and reporting birds.

First is the rare bird that can not be adequately reported to be accepted. 
Very first state records are accepted without a picture.   One bird that was

accepted without a picture was the first and only state record of the 
Crested Caracara.  True it was a well known, reputible observer and an 
unmistakable bird.  While it is unknown in neighboring states, it was seen a

few days later in Ontario.

I reported and wrote up a bird that has never been seen in Minnesota.   It 
has been found in neighboring states, but not here.  The good news was that 
it hung around for at least four more days.  I was able to refind it both 
times I looked in those days.  The trouble was that I did not have a camera 
worth taking a picture.  The other problem was that nobody believed my find.

It was a female Black-chinned Hummingbird.  I wrote it up and it was not 
accepted.  If I was on MOURC, voting on my write up, I would not have 
accepted it.  It is too bad that I couldn't get people to believe me, but I 
believe it was important to document the sighting.

The first sighting of a Stygian Owl north of the Rio Grande was not reported

until about fifteen years later, after someone else reported one, which 
promted the birder to dig out that picture of a strange owl that he had 
taken years before.  I do not remember if the documentation on the second 
Stygian was any good.

Of course there is the bird that was found only once in North American and 
seen by no birders.  The birders visiting the community did not believe the 
kid who found it when he offered to take them to view it.  So, the kid went 
out and shot the only Hoopoe ever documented in North America.   Strange 
birds can show up anywhere.  I believe that it is important to report those 
birds, even if it is unlikely to be accepted.

There are good reasons not to report to the listservs certain birds. 
Certain nesting birds may be suseptible to disturbance, such as a nesting 
loon.  I do not understand the lack of report of a Worm-eating Warbler in 
the metro area.  This is a bird that is unlikely to be nesting in the area, 
but, again, I do not understand why the bird was not reported.

Anyway...  just a few thoughts.

Steve Weston on Quiggley Lake in Eagan, MN
[email protected]




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