Thanks to Wes and Gail about the posts on the crane "poll."  But I think it's 
appropriate to voice a word of caution about what these numbers represent.

As a survey methodologist and market research consultant, I can tell you that 
this is not a scientific survey taken with a probability sample of some larger 
population.  It is an online reader involvement tool for the web site.  As 
such, 
it serves its purpose pretty well:  It gets readers involved in the web site 
and 
creates interesting "findings."  But the results are representative only of 
those who have the time and inclination to participate.  You can test it 
yourself like I did.  Take the poll.  You can even vote several times, if 
you're 
clever enough, and drive the change in the percentages.  As one of my survey 
research colleagues says, it's only cheaply done "scream" research, and should 
not be taken seriously.  In fact, I probably will save the web site and use it 
as an example of how NOT to do a scientific survey when I teach my survey 
methodology class again.

I'm sure that most of us on the list know at some level the things I mentioned 
above.  But that being said, we should be cautious.  These types of polls 
sometimes creep out to the web and get repeated often enough without 
qualification that they are taken as gospel.  Pretty soon those who have an ax 
to grind or an ox to gore begin using the "findings" as an argument for or 
against someone's policy position.  That's the real harm in these types of 
surveys.  


If you want to contact me about this, please reply off the list so we don't 
clutter up e-mail boxes too much. 


Good birding (and good research) to all!  

Rob Daves 
South Minneapolis




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From: Wes Bailey <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 8:34:50 AM
Subject: Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

As of 08:32 am poll now showing 51% in favor, 53% opposed to sandhill
crane hunt.

Wes Bailey
Grand Rapids, MN

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Gail Wieberdink <[email protected]> wrote:
> Here is a link to a poll regarding the hunting of sandhill cranes.
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> http://outdoornews.com/minnesota/
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> Right now the poll is showing many in favor.
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> Gail
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