Hello MN birders -

Matt Young's email got lost in that initial post I did about recording Red
Crossbills to determine type. His email is: [email protected]. If you get
any recordings, contact him. Otherwise continue posting sightings to MOU.

Good birding!
Jesse Ellis

Recordings for this species
> are sorely needed from the upper Midwest and Great Lakes Region. There’s a
> significant influx of birds currently taking place in Minnesota, Michigan,
> and
> Wisconsin (Kansas too and few in Iowa as well).
>
> If you don't know, the Red Crossbill complex is made up of 10 different
> North American call types. On-going research may prove that some of these
> call types are even separate species. Getting audio-recordings is essential
> to solving the crossbill riddle. When you get a crossbill recording you (or
> I) can run an audiospectrographic analysis to get a signature of the birds
> voice, which then can be used to identify the individual (or flock) to call
> type. These recordings will help us understand their ecology and
> distribution better.  Birds can be recorded by video camrecorders with
> audio, expensive recording equipment, and even most cell phones now. I can
> usually make a spectrogram of even pretty bad cell phone recordings. I
> recently was able to easily identify a Type 1 in Tennessee that was
> recorded
> via cell phone. Pretty amazing.
>
> If you have been finding Red Crossbills currently or recently, please let
> me know. I’d love to run the analysis on anyone’s recordings!
>
> For a summary of information about Red Crossbill forms, see
> http://research.amnh.org/vz/ornithology/crossbills/diagnosis.html
>
> Also look here for differences in some of the crossbill Types:
>
> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/introduction-to%20crossbill-vocalizations
>
> http://madriverbio.com/wildlife/redcrossbill/
>
> Information for your area: As for Types that are most common in the Upper
> Great Lakes, they are Types 2, 3, and 10. Types 3 and 10 (these are both
> smallish-billed with Type 3 being smallest billed in NA and Type 10 being
> the next smallest-billed) are most common in the Pacific Northwest, with
> Type 3 most associated with Western Hemlock and Type 10 most associated
> with Sitka spruce. However, Type 10 is also the most frequently occurring
> Type in the Northeast from Adirondacks of NY to northern Maine and likely
> southern Maritimes (often using red and white spruce which isn’t that
> different than Sitka spruce). Type 3 is highly irruptive in the east and
> often uses spruce and Eastern hemlock. Dietary overlap can be great in the
> east, especially when you have very hungry irruptive birds, and it’s not
> uncommon to find all types in spruce or even occasionally white pine. With
> that said, Robert Payne studied crossbills (1987) in the UP Michigan and
> found a
> small billed bird to be relatively resident in the Marquette County
> Highlands. It would be great to get more information on these birds since
> it’s unknown at this time whether Payne’s work involved Type 3 or Type 10
> (I hope to get up there this year to get some recordings). As for the
> large-billed Type 2, it is the most widespread type in NA, and can be
> fairly common at times in the east (often in red pine and perhaps even Jack
> Pine or pitch pine), but is most common in areas of  Ponderosa pine in the
> west. Of the recent recordings I’ve received so far, I’ve identified Type 3
> and 10 from Wisconsin, and Type 2 in Kansas.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> Matthew A. Young
>
>
>
> --
> Jesse Ellis
> Post-doctoral Researcher
> Dept. of Zoology
> University of Wisconsin - Madison
> Madison, Dane Co, WI
>
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> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/theowlranch/
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> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/theowlranch/
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-- 
Jesse Ellis
Post-doctoral Researcher
Dept. of Zoology
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Madison, Dane Co, WI

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