It appears to involve only owls?

Rebecca Field

On Monday, April 14, 2014, Rebecca Field <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just curious. Would this law apply to duck hunters using their duck calls?
> If so, that is a large, organized group that might like to chime in on this
> issue.
>
> Rebecca Field
>
>
> On Monday, April 14, 2014, Uwe Kausch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Chuck,
> Like most issues, some common sense needs to prevail here. First of all,
> the professional birding guides I know (some of them mentioned in this
> e-mail chain included) are for the most part, highly ethical and have a
> deep passion for birds and wildlife conservation in general. Obviously, if
> someone is using a fishing rod with a plastic mouse to lure an owl in time
> and time again, making it expend valuable calories, they need to be
> stopped. However, using some baiting methods, provided they are not used
> repeatedly on the same owl in the same area, again, some common sense needs
> to come into play. Regardless of what anyone says, professional guides can
> and do help spread the word of conservation by giving people the
> opportunity to see wildlife in their native habitat (for the record, I have
> never made a dime on showing anyone a bird or other wild creature). The
> more that see, the more that care.
>
> If this became a black & white issue, then technically, all bird feeding,
> building wildlife ponds, planting bird friendly trees, shrubs, etc. and
> putting out any nesting structures could conceivably qualify as baiting. I
> think the birding community as a whole, is pretty damn ethical and weeds
> out the few that are not. Like the reason for most laws being written, they
> are for those few bad eggs (pardon the pun) in the group that ruins it for
> all others. I agree with Mike that this law needs to be re-written.
>
> On a total side note, my family and I were in Hudson, Wisconsin this past
> weekend, attending a hockey tournament. Behind our hotel, there was a small
> retention pond. My son came to me, wanting to show me where a goose nest
> was. As I was walking there, I noticed a large amount of garbage
> surrounding the pond (no doubt some was in the pond as well). I found a
> large plastic bag and started filling it. I found another and filled it as
> well. Before long, some of the boys on my son's team pitched in, along with
> the janitor of the hotel. In an hour, we removed 5 bags of garbage, most of
> it plastic, from the perimeter of the pond. I would encourage everyone on
> this list to do the same, as now is the best time to do so, before
> everything greens up and hides the filth.
>
> Uwe Kausch
> Duluth
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck
> Cole
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mou-net] Luring Owls might be Illegal in MN NO
>
> Mikes posts ALWAYS contain promotion of his commercial services and are
> for no other apparent purpose.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fr. Paul Kammen [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:37 PM
> > To: Chuck Cole
> > Subject: Re: [mou-net] Luring Owls might be Illegal in MN NO
> >
> > I appreciate this post. I realize people will take different opinions
> > on it, but Mike raises some very good points. As a photographer and
> > birder, I do not want to face harassment as a number of people have
> > due to some self-appointed conservation officers in the field
> > declaring themselves the guardian of owls.
> >
> > I have already contacted my local representative who said he would
> > work on amendments to get this language removed, and he agreed with me
> > that it was a bad idea. So at least that is one no vote.
> >
> > MOU is not-for-profit, and I do not feel Mike was promoting himself -
> > rather he was alerting users to a political issue as the session winds
> > down. I feel we can have a civilized discussion on this, and do feel
> > that it unfairly targets photographers and birders who use calls and
> > could have unintended consequences.
> >
> > Thank you, Mike, for this post.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Fr. Paul Kammen
> > On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Chuck Cole <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I think I am looking at the big picture: all commercial
> > baiting and luring
> > > practices should be stopped as professional naturalists clearly and
> > > repeatedly say.
> > >
> > > Your commercial exploitation of the MOU list should also be stopped.
> > >
> > > You only post in order to promote your commercial "guiding"
> > and always
> > > include ads and links for that.
> > >
> > > Isn't this a NOT-FOR-PROFIT list and organization?  The
> > true not-for-profit
> > > groups and their activities are easy to accept, but your
> > efforts are not.
> > >
> > > Your effo
>
>

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