Skip this non bird message if you don't want to know the details about
members removed from the mou-net list.
Several have posted a message that they have comcast.com, hotmail.com or
other email provider and have been removed from the list. All
subscribers that were removed from the list were added back into the list.
The problem with messages resulted from yahoo.com and aol.com setting a
parameter of "p=reject" in their DMARC configuration. This is used to
remove a type of SPAM. However, this feature breaks any mail going
through a listserv such as mou-net. You can think of it as a poison
pill in any mail from yahoo.com or aol.com. It tells the receiving
email provider to check the domain portion of the email From: line with
the server who sent the mail, and take the action 'reject' if they don't
match. A mail from yahoo.com goes to our email listserv provider,
lists.umn.edu, and is sent out to the members of mou-net. comcast.net,
hotmail.com, etc. do the check on the From: address in the email message
and see that yahoo.com does not match umn.edu and "rejects" the message.
The mou-net listserv keeps track of rejected messages and after some
threshold has been reached, removes the rejecting member from the list.
The rejected member can be from any of a number of email providers.
That is why a comcast.net, hotmail.com, msn.com, etc. member was removed
from the list.
The side effect of this operation, any valid email message from
yahoo.com and aol.com does to go to your inbox. A post from yahoo.com
does not even get accepted by yahoo.com. This is the reason why someone
could post a message and not see it in their own inbox.
The Wisconsin bird list has worked around this problem by rewriting the
From address so the message comes from their server instead of
yahoo.com. We have been trying to work with list.umn.edu, but have not
been successful in making a change to the mou-net listserv.
Until some other solution can be found, yahoo.com and aol.com member
have been excluded from posting messages to mou-net. Notice that even
without this change in list policy, yahoo.com and aol.com were going to
only a portion of the list members. Their posts were rejected by many
of the email providers, so their messages were discarded. gmail put
these messages into the users SPAM folder.
Not allowing posts from yahoo.com and aol.com means that important
messages are not sent. To allow yahoo.com and aol.com members to share
their information on mou-net, a web page was added to moumn.org. This
is located at http://moumn.org and then click on the box in the upper
right hand corner that says "mou-net send". This brings up a page that
uses the email address of the member of moumn.org and creates a From
line that is acceptable. So if [email protected] sends a message, the From
line becomes:
From: <[email protected]> ([email protected])
When you receive a message from this member, you can not just hit reply
and reply back channel to this member. You need to fish out the
[email protected] and put it in the To: portion of the response.
This is a very long winded answer to the post:
Except, as you can see, my email is NOT yahoo or aol, and I was
still booted.
I'm not happy with the "work assignment" given to us by yahoo.com and
aol.com. I'll keep the list posted about any more changes.
Let's go birding!
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David [email protected] Burnsville MN 952-894-5910
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