Hello, Regarding the perception of public access to the pond on North Hudson Road -- not all public land is accessible land. I regularly work in MnDOT right of way and on other types of city/county/state held parcels that have safety and access constraints. In this case the parcel contains a MnDOT drainage ditch. Further the mapping shared from the Washington County website is not accurate and a portion of what is mapped as MnDOT is indeed private land that has been reconveyed to the landowner.
For the sake of other birders who would like to view this location and the birds that it attracts, please continue to view the pond from the pull-off on Hudson Road and stay on the road side of the fence. Best, Michelle *____________________________________* *Michelle M. Terrell, Ph.D.* *President, Minnesota Ornithologists' Union* On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 3:02 PM Michael Koutnik <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've created an interactive map that allows one to easily see the property > ownership in this case. The map uses data directly from Washington County. > Anyone can access it with this link: > > > https://arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/index.html?webmap=36dea0ed341c41bfa9177fd55b95c8eb > > The two parcels in green are owned by MN DOT (the two knife blade-shaped > pieces) and the City of Lake Elmo (the "T" shaped piece that the MN DOT > pieces surround). The magenta lines are the other surrounding parcels. > There *appears* to be sufficient public land one right up to the pond. > > Mike Koutnik > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 2:05 PM Sue Keator <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > So tired of people thinking that rules don't apply to them. No need to > > trespass, ever. > > Sue Keator > > > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 11:32 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Haven’t seen any post on this bird!? > > > John Ellis, Saint Paul > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Jason Hedlund <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > You are correct that this pond is within private property. There is > a > > > small > > > > pull-off on Hudson Blvd (44.949281,-92.892097) where people observe > > with > > > > spotting scopes from the roadside. Unfortunately, I have observed one > > > > person trespassing here to get better views/photos and had to > convince > > > > another not to trespass (He thought that because there were no > "Posted" > > > > signs he could do what he wanted). > > > > > > > > As I write this, I'm looking up the property ownership here and, > > > strangely, > > > > I found that there is in fact a sliver of land owned by the city of > > Lake > > > > Elmo. Despite this, I highly discourage anyone from hopping any > fences > > to > > > > get a better view. This is an active farm and the owner is regularly > > > > tending to their fields. Please do not give birders a bad name by > > > > trespassing. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Jason Hedlund > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023, 7:16 AM Tom Gilde < > > > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> The pond from which this Phalarope has been reported looks like it > is > > > >> private property. Are people asking the farmer for permission or is > > > there > > > >> some sort of public access? Thanks, > > > >> > > > >> Tom Gilde > > > >> ---- > > > >> General information and guidelines for posting: > > > >> https://moumn.org/listservice.html > > > >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > >> > > > >> During the pandemic, the MOU encourages you to stay safe, practice > > > social > > > >> distancing, and continue to bird responsibly. > > > >> > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > General information and guidelines for posting: > > > https://moumn.org/listservice.html > > > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > > > > > During the pandemic, the MOU encourages you to stay safe, practice > > > social distancing, and continue to bird responsibly. > > > > > > ---- > > > General information and guidelines for posting: > > > https://moumn.org/listservice.html > > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > > > During the pandemic, the MOU encourages you to stay safe, practice > social > > > distancing, and continue to bird responsibly. > > > > > > > ---- > > General information and guidelines for posting: > > https://moumn.org/listservice.html > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > > > During the pandemic, the MOU encourages you to stay safe, practice social > > distancing, and continue to bird responsibly. > > > > > -- > Mike Koutnik > Mobile: 612-963-5551 > [email protected] > LinkedIn: mkoutnik > > ---- > General information and guidelines for posting: > https://moumn.org/listservice.html > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > During the pandemic, the MOU encourages you to stay safe, practice social > distancing, and continue to bird responsibly. > ---- General information and guidelines for posting: https://moumn.org/listservice.html Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html During the pandemic, the MOU encourages you to stay safe, practice social distancing, and continue to bird responsibly.
