Thanks, Greg, for the data.
Anyone putting out theories?  Weather?  Climate? Chemicals? Bird flu?
Thanks.
Nancy

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 10:51 AM Greg Seitz <greg.se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If I crunched the numbers correctly, eBird shows an ~ 9% decline in
> observed hummingbirds in Minnesota this year:
>
>    - 2023, Jan 1 - July 22: 293
>    - 2024, Jan 1 - July 22: 266
>
> Any real data scientists out there are welcome to check my math!
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:22 PM Nancy Steinhauser <nancyhu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jason,
> > Do you have feeders up  - and  - if so, did you notice a drop in numbers
> of
> > birds at those feeders compared to previous years? When did the "drop"
> > occur?
> > Thanks for responding!
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:19 AM Jason Frank <jmfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would note that last year, in the Ortonville area, as far as I
> > observed,
> > > numbers were what I'd call "normal." Even during the periods when they
> > > hunted insects to feed nestlings, they'd still be seen around
> residential
> > > areas with gardens.
> > >
> > > This year, I never saw a single mating dance or territorial dispute
> > > between males, which have always been a regular sight in my yard.
> > >
> > > Jason Frank
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 8:23 PM Nancy Steinhauser <
> nancyhu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Alex,
> > >> Did you have more in the Spring, did you notice?
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 8:20 PM Knopick, Alex <
> > >> alex.d.knop...@craig-hallum.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > We see 1-2 almost every evening at our feeder between 6-8pm,
> including
> > >> > tonight.
> > >> >
> > >> > Alex Knopick
> > >> > a...@craighallum.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Alex Knopick - Partner
> > >> > Managing Director - Investment Banking
> > >> > Craig-Hallum Capital Group
> > >> > M: 612-237-5281
> > >> > Work Text: 612-482-2583
> > >> > O: 612-334-6341
> > >> > a...@craighallum.com
> > >> >
> > >> > On Jul 19, 2024, at 7:56 PM, Nancy Steinhauser <
> nancyhu...@gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >  Thank you all for replying. This is very troubling.
> > >> > A lot of migrating hummingbirds got back here but what happened
> > >> afterwards?
> > >> > And the monarchs have been very few. Only a few caterpillars found
> on
> > >> many
> > >> > milkweed plants.
> > >> > Nancy
> > >> > Superior Highlands
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 4:07 PM Charlene Nelson <
> birdnir...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > We have very few butterflies, and we have an abundance of milkweed
> > and
> > >> > > other natives for them to enjoy.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Charlene Nelson
> > >> > > Grant County farm
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > On Jul 19, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Rebecca Field <
> > >> rebeccafiel...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I just saw a single Monarch in our hillside prairie where we
> have
> > >> > planted
> > >> > > > milkweed. Hope.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Becky Field
> > >> > > > Orono
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 3:10 PM Tom Gilde <
> > >> > > > 00002247eb7407f6-dmarc-requ...@lists.umn.edu> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> One of the profound threats to Monarchs is the decline of their
> > >> > > wintering
> > >> > > >> forest. It's not just logging but also climate change. I'm
> > planting
> > >> > > >> milkweeds, anyway.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Tom Gilde
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> On Fri, 19 Jul, 2024 at 2:41 PM, Jeanne Baumann <
> > >> > > jbaumann-...@outlook.com>
> > >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> To: mou-net@lists.umn.edu
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> I've seen one single monarch - just yesterday. And my yard is
> > full
> > >> of
> > >> > > >> wild milkweed.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> On 7/19/2024 12:22 PM, Missy Bowen wrote:
> > >> > > >>> No monarchs. Troubling.
> > >> > > >>>
> > >> > > >>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, 12:17 PM Jeffrey Saffle<
> > >> > > >> jeffrey.saf...@hsc.utah.edu<mailto:jeffrey.saf...@hsc.utah.edu
> >>
> > >> > > >>> wrote:
> > >> > > >>>
> > >> > > >>>> We have a few hummers here in Lake Elmo but I’m much more
> > struck
> > >> by
> > >> > a
> > >> > > >>>> near-total absence of monarch butterflies. I successfully
> > raised
> > >> and
> > >> > > >>>> released 16 monarchs in June/early July but since then I’ve
> > only
> > >> > found
> > >> > > >> one
> > >> > > >>>> caterpillar and seen one adult. I suspect the relentlessly
> > rainy
> > >> > > >> weather
> > >> > > >>>> was hard on them. What are others’ thought?
> > >> > > >>>> Jeffrey Saffle
> > >> > > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >> > > >>>>
> > >> > > >>>>> On Jul 19, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Jason Frank<
> jmfran...@gmail.com
> > >> > > <mailto:
> > >> > > >> jmfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >> > > >>>>>
> > >> > > >>>>> I'm in Ortonville, and haven't seen a single hummingbird
> all
> > >> > summer
> > >> > > >>>> long. I
> > >> > > >>>>> only saw a few in the spring.
> > >> > > >>>>>
> > >> > > >>>>> There are no Japanese Beetles this far west yet, so no one
> > >> around
> > >> > > here
> > >> > > >> is
> > >> > > >>>>> spraying for them. Plenty of people are spraying for
> > everything
> > >> > else,
> > >> > > >>>>> though. Ortonville is governed by the type of 20th Century
> > >> idiocy
> > >> > > that
> > >> > > >>>>> employs a municipal mosquito spray truck which circles the
> > town
> > >> > once
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > >>>> week
> > >> > > >>>>> to kill every flying insect in its path (can't have all dem
> > >> golfers
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > >>>>> lakeshore dwellers gettin all itchy, don't ya know). There
> are
> > >> > plenty
> > >> > > >> of
> > >> > > >>>>> flowers around town, and good nesting habitat in the parks
> and
> > >> > > >> ravines. I
> > >> > > >>>>> too am noticing low numbers of Barn and Tree Swallows...
> and I
> > >> > > haven't
> > >> > > >>>> seen
> > >> > > >>>>> a Kestrel since April. At this point, it could be a whole
> > >> > cumulative
> > >> > > >>>> effect
> > >> > > >>>>> of climate, over-spraying and insect population collapse,
> and
> > >> bird
> > >> > > flu,
> > >> > > >>>>> which I'd imagine could spread to hummers if their feeders
> are
> > >> in
> > >> > > close
> > >> > > >>>>> proximity to seed and suet feeders. All those storms and
> heavy
> > >> rain
> > >> > > >>>> during
> > >> > > >>>>> nesting season probably didn't help, either.
> > >> > > >>>>>
> > >> > > >>>>> Jason Frank
> > >> > > >>>>>
> > >> > > >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 8:36 PM Nancy Steinhauser <
> > >> > > >> nancyhu...@gmail.com<mailto:nancyhu...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >> > > >>>>>>
> > >> > > >>>>>> Wondering if anyone else has seen the numbers go down this
> > >> summer.
> > >> > > >>>> From a
> > >> > > >>>>>> great start (over 30 birds arrived at the feeders.....and
> who
> > >> > knows
> > >> > > >> the
> > >> > > >>>>>> ones I didn't see) in mid-May, the numbers now have
> dwindled
> > to
> > >> > less
> > >> > > >>>> than a
> > >> > > >>>>>> dozen, and that's up from 3 or 4 because the little ones
> have
> > >> > > fledged.
> > >> > > >>>>>> Neighbors and co-workers (the north shore and inland above
> > Two
> > >> > > >> Harbors)
> > >> > > >>>>>> have reported the same "drop" in birds. Bewildered. They
> > >> started
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > >>>>>> disappear early to mid-June and have not returned.
> Wondering
> > >> about
> > >> > > >> bird
> > >> > > >>>>>> flu.
> > >> > > >>>>>> We have had a huge mosquito population this summer because
> of
> > >> all
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > >>>>>> rain. But that hasn't dropped hummingbird numbers coming to
> > >> > feeders
> > >> > > >> in
> > >> > > >>>>>> previous wet summers.
> > >> > > >>>>>> Any ideas/experiences? The numbers here have been steadily
> > >> going
> > >> > up
> > >> > > >> for
> > >> > > >>>>>> over
> > >> > > >>>>>> 25 years. Many feeders out. Such a shock to have so few
> > birds.
> > >> > > >>>>>> Thanks in advance.
> > >> > > >>>>>> Nancy in Superior Highlands
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