On 5/10/05, Jean-Marc Desperrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ram A Moskovitz wrote:
> > On 5/9/05, Jean-Marc Desperrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>They can not truly attack the signature, so they will in fact attack the
> >>registration process. We have been warned here several time it will not
> >>resist so much when *actually* under attack.
> >
> > Personally I've been warned of many things by many people. I am
> > selective in what I take as fact and further I believe that a dynamic
> > system may change to reflect reality.
> 
> I could be critical too if I didn't think it makes sense.
> 
> What if I say Bruce Schneier also says similar things ?
> "Identification and Security"
> http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0402.html#6

I often but not always agree with Bruce. I happen to agree with most
of that particular rant and believe that most of the steps taken in
the US since 9/11 did more to sooth American's worries than to address
security - both of which are legitimate goals.

I think of PKI as an imperfect security tool, it's there and you can
use it effectively if you're sensible about it. Using certificates
properly (with chain building, signature checking, expiration
checking, revocation checking) raises the fence quite broadly - of
course without checking the signatures or revocation much of potential
value is ignored. Increasing identity authentication before issuing a
certificate makes it harder to get a certificate and so increases the
risk of bad guys leaving a trail back to them, suggests a lower
revocation rate which may mean it is cheaper to operate the service
and in a competitive market you would expect prices for the service to
drop overall, and drives would be bad guys to try other vectors.

Generally I think that layers of imperfect security should be used to
reach the level of risk-mitigation that is appropriate. Perfect
security is a myth in most real world scenarios and even when possible
is probably more of an economic burden than a few imperfect solutions
that layer well. PKI is here today and usable - why ignore that?

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