On 18 Jul 2002, it is alleged that John Keiser sauntered in to
netscape.public.mozilla.documentation and loudly proclaimed: 

> 
> 
> fantasai wrote:
>> Brian Heinrich wrote:
>> 
>>>On 11 Jul 2002, it is alleged that fantasai sauntered in to
>>>netscape.public.mozilla.documentation and loudly proclaimed:
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> All good points, of course. I would hardly say "loudly proclaimed",
>> though, since I did slip almost all of that in with an example I
>> originally wrote up to demonstrate the use of class="para" in the
>> Markup Guide. :) I don't claim any expertise in technical
>> documentation; this bit of text you're tearing apart is just my
>> reaction to some of the online documentation I've had to read. As for
>> lists, you might want to re-read the actual text of my message and then
>> compare the rendered result of the example with what would be the text
>> if I had forced that list into paragraph form. 
>> 
>> 
>>>Most often, yes.  There are various ways in which to go about this. 
>>>(BTW, fantasai, this is part of my problem with structural/semantic
>>>tags:  there are time I want to highlight information in a purely
>>>physical/presentational way, and often the rationale for doing so is
>>>simply to give a bit of guidance to a reader who might just be skimming
>>>the text.) 
>> 
>> 
>> But using <b> to do so will not help anyone without a graphical
>> browser. At least if you declare your intent--which is to highlight the
>> information--someone can write the necessary style rules for devices
>> with other capabilities. 
> 
> But that's the intent with b and i.  Highlighting is presentational. 
> The fact that non-graphical browsers highlight things differently just 
> means they have a different presentation.

That's what I've been arguing for quite a while, since there are times when 
it just seems over-kill to impose a semantic, content-based 'meaning' on 
something when all you want to do is presentationally highlight it.

> Non-graphical browsers most likely interpret b the same as strong, and i
> the same as em.

One would hope so.

> And b is a helluvalot easier to type than strong.  Vilify me if you want
>   for not wanting to type 10 extra characters every time I want to 
> highlight a sentence ... em is not as bad, I can use that more.  But I 
> don't see the point.

Nor do I.  Then again, I fail to see the point of /not/ including

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">.

Ever try to get a page to validate properly w/o defining a charset 
attribute?

/b.

> --John


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