And it came to pass that Warren Bell wrote:
>Charles Miller wrote:
>>
>> Jared Breland wrote:
>>
>> > Warren Bell wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Christopher Jahn wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>And it came to pass that Warren Bell wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>I don't know if this is a bug or somone actually meant
>> >>>>it to be this way but why would you have the right
>> >>>>click context menu execute on the release of a right
>> >>>>click? One of the things I like about Netscape 4.x is
>> >>>>you can right click and hold, scroll down to your
>> >>>>selection and let go and the function gets executed.
>> >>>>Now you have to right click, let go, scroll and left
>> >>>>click to do somthing. It reminds me of IE.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>This is the way it has always worked for me.
>> >>>
>> >>I can't see how this would be better in any way. Seems
>> >>like it goes against useability..
>> >>
>> >
>> > I agree with you. I posted a question about this about a
>> > month ago. This bug
>> > (http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49844) was
>> > resolved as fixed, despite the large number of people
>> > that find it's behavior extremely undesirable. Go to the
>> > bug page and you can read the comments. Also, add
>> > another vote for re-opening and fixing the bug.
>>
>> The problem with reading bug reports is that they're in no
>> way indicative of anything but the opinions of two groups -
>> those people who are working on the affected module, and
>> those people who made the effort to look up the bug.
>>
>> Standard Windows behaviour for right-click-and-drag is to
>> pick up item under the mouse pointer, and then on
>> mouse-release present an extended menu of drag-and-drop
>> options. Standard behaviour under Mac and Unix is to have a
>> context-menu appear on mouse-down, so that's how it works
>> on Mac and Unix.
>>
>> Mozilla doesn't support Windows right-click drag and drop
>> right now, but it could in the future. It would, for
>> example, be very useful if you could right-drag a link from
>> Mozilla to the desktop or explorer and then choose between
>> "Copy shortcut", and "Download..." IE just gives me a
>> stupid "Add to Active Desktop" option that's no use to
>> anyone. Anybody know if there's an RFE for this?
>>
>> The big mistake would be to say that because Mozilla
>> doesn't implement right-click drag and drop, you can
>> replace the dragging behaviour with something completely
>> different. This causes serious useability problems because
>> it hides the fact that the original behaviour is not
>> implemented. If I right-drag something on a Windows app and
>> nothing happens, I think "Okay, I can't do that." If I
>> right-drag and a menu appears, I start wasting time trying
>> to find a way to stop the menu appearing so I can do a real
>> right-drag.
>>
>> If you want one-click back and forward navigation, that's
>> why there are back and forward buttons. Alternatively, you
>> could always code a gesture-navigation system similar to
>> Opera's and either contribute that to Mozilla, or
>> distribute it as a patch or add-on.
>>
>> Charles Miller
>> (P.S. Since 0.9.1 has been released, I decided to give
>> the Mail/News
>> component on the lastest nightly a try. (The last time I
>> tried was 0.8.1, and was rather vocally unimpressed in
>> n.p.m.general) So far it's been very smooth, all the
>> niggling problems I had with previous versions seem to be
>> fixed, and its back to being only as annoying as every
>> other GUI newsreader. I am impressed.)
>
>Mozilla is a seperate application from windows, I don't think
>people are going to expect it to mimic the windows functions.
Au contraire. People expect the same kind of behaviour from
different applications on the same machine. When I press the
delete key, I expect it to delete no matter what app I'm in.
We have two CAD programs at work - one has right click menu, the
other doesn't. I here people clikcing and cursing all day long
"why won't the ##%#!! menu come up?"
> There are plenty of apps I use that act completetly
>different from standard windows programs. If I right click in
>mozilla and a menu pops up on the down click I'm going to
>realize that it's different than the standard windows context
>menus. I'll know it's not meant for drag and drop, just like
>the other non MS programs I have.
>
That's YOU. Most the rest of the world has other opinions.
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