DeMoN_LaG wrote:
> 
> JTK wrote:
> 
> > Blake Ross wrote:
> >
> >>>Yeah, pretty much:  "You work on the stuff we don't want to, we'll take
> >>>it and bundle it with a bunch of stuff that's proprietary, and you get
> >>>nada.  So long, sucker!"
> >>>
> >>Dude, you don't know what you're talking about.
> >>
> >
> > I know all too well of what I speak.
> 
> Not really.  Actually, I'm quite amazed that you managed to double click
> an icon and write this message.
> 

I use the single-click, "web-style" interface.  A little more accessible
that way.

> >
> >
> >> Netscape is the largest
> >>contributor to Mozilla.  "You work on the stuff we don't want to"
> >>doesn't make sense.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > No it doesn't, that's why it didn't really work out as Netscape had
> > planned, and why they're ending up having to do most of the work
> > themselves.
> 
> O...k...  I don't know where to start with this one.

There's a shock.

[snip]

> >>we generally try to keep Mozilla non-commercialized where
> >>possible.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Heheheyeah.  What's commercial about hooking up to a web email service
> > any moreso than to a POP3 one?
> 
> POP3 is not owned by any one person or company.

Neither is HTTP.

>  POP3 servers are
> typically paid for by the user paying their ISP bill, or paying for the
> mailbox in some way.  Web email, on the other hand, is paid for by
> banner ads, mostly.

Yep.  Sure be nice if some "Open" mail/newsreader wouldn't be so afraid
to "innovate" and came up with a way to interface to these systems and
bypass all those godforsaken banner ads.

>  Hotmail probably makes more on selling their user
> lists than banner ads, but they are an exception.  If someone writes a
> client that can take someone's mail from a web service and bypass their
> revenue stream, they don't like or allow it.
> 

How are they going to know, and if they even do, how are they going to
stop it?

> >>>Do you really think AOL is going
> >>>to give their official Politburo stamp of approval on such
> >>>anti-AOL's-bottom-line functionality?
> >>>
> >>It really doesn't matter, it'd be up to mozilla.org...
> >>
> >>
> >
> > And who's running mozilla.org?
> 
> It ain't Netscape corp or AOL
>

WHO'S RUNNING MOZILLA.ORG?  DON'T WAIT FOR THE TRANSLATION, ANSWER THE
QUESTION!
 
> >>>Yep.  Because it ain't 100% "Open".  It's
> >>>whatever-AOL-decides-to-let-the-suckers-work-on-% "Open".
> >>>
> >>That's not true at all; you're making broad statements without providing
> >>any support.  Contributors to Mozilla can work on whatever they want.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Perhaps an AIM-compatible IM client?  Yeah, didn't think so.
> 

<apologist_mode>

> AIM uses a proprietary standard for communications.  No one other than
> AOL is allowed to use it to connect with AIM users if AOL doesn't want
> them to.  Not Mozilla's open source equivilant, not Microsoft, no one.

<\apologist_mode>

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