Garth Wallace wrote:
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> Philip, I've been patient with you for a very long time.
> No longer. This has been explained to you several times,
> yet you continue to post the same retarded things as if
> nobody had ever said anything. I can only conclude that
> are determined to remain an ignoramus.
>
> QUOTED-PRINTABLE DOES NOT IMPOSE ANY SORT OF
> FONT DECISIONS ON THE DOCUMENT! Just because a mailer
> does something stupid for no reason does not mean there is
> a problem with quoted-printable. The ONLY thing
> quoted-printable does is encode characters outside of the
> 7-bit ASCII charset so they can be sent through mail and
> news servers that can't handle 8-bit (SMTP can't).
>
> Without quoted-printable, you can't use charsets besides
> US-ASCII. That means no Spanish email (uses accented
> characters), no German email (same thing), no Japanese
> email (uses the JIS or Shift-JIS charset), no Chinese email,
> etc.
>
> There is NOTHING in the spec for quoted-printable (actually
> the spec for MIME as a whole) that requires the use of any
> sort of font, or font size, or color of text with q-p messages.
> The Content-Transfer-Encoding is ONLY for determining the
> way the message should be sent over the wire.
Look Garth,
I don't resort to calling you names, question ones intelligence, imply
one is retarded.
I have patiently explained this problem. Nobody seem to take me seriously.
Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't affect me.
If you've never expreinced the problem more power to you.
I'd love to send a screen shot of such to you in Jpg format so that you
can see what i am talking about.
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> Why don't you just--and this may seem like a wild
> suggestion--use a mailer that doesn't screw up q-p
> messages? I'm sorry if that concept is too difficult
> for your tiny brain to comprehend.
Just because one feels like doing so, doesn't mean someone can or
should.
>
> > They send that stuff and format using Aerial 9 point and I have to
> > squint (use a Magnifying glass) on 5-6 point print.
If there is no fomatting referenced to fonts what is :
Edit > Preferences > Appearance > Fonts for.
There has to be a reference marker somewhere to trigger the use of a
given font.
When I receive such a post, The post is shown in a size and font sytle I
do not have set to view.
I've even tried using the setting : "Use my fonts -overriding page
specified fonts" just to see if it would make a difference. It doesn't.
If that's the case the Communicator has been broke since Netscape 3.0 days.
I've submitted to Netscape even sent samples and jpg images of samples
they can't figure out what's going on other than the common demoninator
is Printed Quotable MIME Encoding.
> No, they do not format it at all. It's still text/plain,
> and contains no formatting information. Your mailer
> is screwed up.
When saving such a file in order to save you must save as "SOURCE" not
as "TEXT". This indicates that at least its handled as a "Graphic" not
as text.
>
> > No amount of
> > increasing the font size on my end helps (its a Graphic instead of text
> > when sent that way).
Okay let's say it acts like a graphic.
Also when I uncheck View > Attachments inline then all text disappears
and I see the box indicating an attchment and shows as Printed Quotable
Mime Encoding.
>
> No, it is not. It is text. I'd say "Do you even know what
> quoted-printable is?" and "Read the spec" but I already
> have many, many times and I've given up hope that you
> might be capable of absorbing any information presented
> to you since you were eight years old.
Yes I know what Printed-Quotable is "supposed to be".
>
> Which brings up the question: why are you incapable of
> learning new things?
No more than other people here.
> Do you have a learning disability?
No
> Mental retardation?
No
> Dropped on your head as a baby?
No
> Stabbed in the brain during a horrible juggling accident? No.
> What? Possibly stuborness on stuff that affects my computing.
>
> > And on Communicator if I attempt to save the post
> > for referal to later, if you forget and not change to
> > source instead of text it crashes Netscape with a type -2 error.
>
> It is no secret that Communicator has all sorts of bugs.
Well if this is a bug, its been around since Navaigator 3.0 days.
Looks like if such a bug existed that long someone would have seen it.
the people in Mac division at netscape are pretty smart cookies. They
wouldn't let a bug like this to run this long with out at least
acknowledging the problem.
>
> I wouldn't have much of a problem with your ignorance,
> really. It's the fact that you insist on posting on topics
> you do not understand *as if* you were some sort of
> authority, and *despite* the fact that you have been
> corrected on the subject numerous times before, with
> pointers to the spec that PROVE that you are wrong. It's
> that sort of bull-headed stupidity that puts you on my
> list of "The Most Irritating Posters on the n.p.m.*
> Hierarchy", right under JTK.
>
> I've been honoring our "cease-fire" since the whole COM
> flamewar (although I'm still not sure you understand the
> difference between COM, XPCOM, and ActiveX, or the
> difference between "compiling as an ActiveX component"
> and "supporting ActiveX components", just that you've
> stopped talking about them), but I've had it.
>
> It's my belief that somebody who is ignorant of technical
> subjects and REFUSES to even *try* to learn about the
> technology (the second criterion is key) has no business
> being a regular poster on a technical newsgroup.
>
> Crossposting to n.p.m.general to make sure this gets read,
> and people know where I'm coming from.
Okay, I won't speak on this subject again.
Actually the original thread was posted to the two groups I never
changed that. Yes i know I can. I don't need a lecture on that.
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