Asa Dotzler wrote:
>
> JTK wrote:
>
> > Alright:
> >
> > 1. The GIMP is cool.
>
> Yes. The GIMP is cool. I agree with you.
>
Perl's cool too. ;-)
> > 2. Will the Mozilla project accept reasonable[1] artwork contributions,
> > add them to http://www.mozilla.org/banners/,
>
> Why do they have to be added to banners/?
>
Where else would they go?
> and let the people (as in
> > users, not People's Republic)
>
> Mozilla's (the browser) users are the development, testing and qa
> communities plus vendors using Mozilla technologies in their releases.
Not according to the input on this newsgroup. I'd be curious to know
what AOL's numbers are to that effect actually: how many Netscape 6.x's
are out there compared to Mozilla nightlies. Regardless, the point is
moot: developers are people too!
> Most of the development, testing and qa community could care less what
> the few Mozilla images (installer, splash, throbber and desktop icon) in
> the application look like and the vendors like Netscape and Beonex have
> their own splash and icon art.
>
That's fine, if they want to keep the commie graphics, that should be
their choice. Please note that I did not suggest that the commie
graphics be removed, only that other choices be added.
> www.mozilla.org's (the website) users are the development, testing and
> qa communities, vendors using Mozilla technologies, plus the people that
> would like to join one of those groups. I think that the website could
> use a new look and that something a little less heavy would be a nice
> change. I've seen some pretty nice mock-ups with just the Mozilla head
> (like slashdot uses) and "mozilla.org" in the banner as well as some
> completely different ideas with totally different art and color schemes.
> If we move over to a new website architecture (being worked on)
No offense guys, but THANK GOD! ;-) That's more than a little overdue.
I just hope it's made more useful and not just a new cover on the same
old book.
> then we
> may see something like "site skins" where users could pick from a
> handful of style sheets or create their own.
Oh lord. No, just make the site look decent and improve the quality and
accessibility of the content. Please. For the good of the code.
> I'm all for making a
> change to lighten up the website but I prefer to spend my time thinking
> about organizing content and navigation because I think those are a more
> important problem to tackle. If you'd like to do a mock-up of site
> banners and such then please do and post to n.p.m.documentation if you
> get something that you like.
>
I think you misunderstand me: I don't particularly care what
www.mozilla.org wants to look like. I'm talking about people who want
to do "Mozilla NOW!"'s on their OWN pages, Mozilla advocacy sites, that
sort of stuff.
> decide whether they want to use commie or
> > non-commie artwork to promote this supposedly "Open" project?
>
> Did you miss the whole "mozilla icons are really boring and ugly" rants
> and the artwork that came of that?
Not at all. What became of that artwork?
> What about the "mozilla needs a new
> splash screen" and the artwork that resulted there?
Yep, caught that too. And Mozilla still needs a new splash screen.
Better yet, a "Use This Picture As My Splash Screen" right-click option.
> If you did miss
> those read back in .general and .ui and take a look at some of the art
> people posted there. [EMAIL PROTECTED] do not want to have a contest
Nor do I. Put up anything halfway reasonable and let each man choose
his poison.
> but if something better (lots of wiggle room here, I know) comes along
> then I think we should take it. There have already been a large number
> of submissions of alternate splash screen and icon art. Some of it is
> good, some not so good. I'm not the most eduacted critic in the world
> but I do have more than a few years of university study in graphic
> design, then art history, and architecture which should at least qualify
> me to make the occasional critical statement about this or that icon or
> splash screen.
>
Alright then, I nominate you as "Official Mozilla Minister Of Art
Culling Pro Bono With Oak Leaves". You cull out the submissions that
are just plain bad or obviously offensive. The rest end up in /banners.
> --Asa
