Pratik wrote:

> On 01/22/02 10:56 AM, Myself wrote:
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>> Pratik wrote:
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>>> On 01/22/02 08:20 AM, Myself wrote:
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>>
>> I don't see the diff from loading a webpage. But anyway, mail prefs 
>> like Ximian Evolution has it seems would address this (see other 
>> message in this thread).
> 
> 
> If there were a pref in Mozilla to address this, I would be much happier.


It sounds like several people would. Advocate for it.


> 
> 
>>
>>> I see the advantages of rich text format. I have composed mails in 
>>> HTML quite a few times. But at the same time I dont think that one 
>>> needs to send HTML mails *all the time*. General communication can be 
>>> done in plain text. I just got a 5K mail that has just 2 lines of 
>>> text and a 4 line signature. That same mail could have been sent in 
>>> plain text and it would have taken up 1k of my mailbox and the two 
>>> lines or signature did not really use (or need) any wonderful 
>>> formatting. Do you see any reason why that person should have sent me 
>>> that mail in HTML?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm, well let's see. We could ask a mailer to auto-send as plaintext 
>> if there's no formatting or if size to actual text content is some 
>> ratio... 
> 
> 
> Do you seriously thing Microsoft will implement such a thing?


Nope. I wasn't thinking of them but us. But you make a good point as 
they account for so many of the clients that access the net.


> 
>> but why bother?  In programming some time ago we used to use bits in 
>> bytes for flags, nowdays we (mostly) don't care. Sure, it saves some 
>> space but space is not the premium it once was. Higher level languages 
>> and their ease outweighed the save some space concern.
> 
> 
> I agree but still sending a 5k mail is just blatant. Using a byte 
> instead of a bit might have reduced program complexity. What exactly did 
> the sender gain by sending 5k instead of 1k? And that too for a mail 
> that did not need any formatting whatsoever. Space with repect to mail 
> account can still be a premium. Hotmail just gives you 2Mb of space. 
> Other web based mailer rarely go above 10MB and my previous school just 
> gave me 25MB of space. Not really talking in GBs yet.


It's all relative. We see each others points here.


> 
>> Rich text is easier to use than plain text.
> 
> 
> How so? How is it easier to use. I can understand it looking good but 
> how is it easier? In fact I would have to go through extra trouble of 
> bolding/changing text/colours etc. So there is more effort required to 
> compose rich text. How is it easier?


Ahhh I see. Easier to read, not write. (although the case can be made 
for writing as well as writing involves reading back - although evidence 
on the newsgroups suggests that is not done all that often ;-).  There's 
a lot of material on this - rich text is not a new topic. Tschichold's 
work goes back decades. Nielsen has written not that long ago about bold 
and bulleted lists for "scannability" of content.


> 
> 
>> Would there really be a return on the effort to implement a scheme to 
>> switch to  plaintext just because it's a two line message and the 
>> sender didn't use bold or a bulleted list? I don't know.
> 
> 
> The problem is that these 2 line messages are much more common that the 
> bulleted list.
> 

Well then there would be a return  - if there were no other factors to 
consider.


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