Christian Mattar wrote:
>Hi!
>
>psmith wrote:
>
>>Christian Mattar wrote:
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>psmith wrote:
>>>
>>>(psmith's ranbling snipped)
>>>
>>>I just checked, Mozilla's and Communicator cookie-files look exactly the
>>>same, the< use the same spec from
>>><http://www.netscape.com/newsref/std/cookie_spec.html>. I suggest you
>>>inform yourself properly next time before throwing around any invalid
>>>claims. Oh, and BTW: Cookies were *invented* by Netscape. It never was
>>>an open standardizing process, so Mozilla's cookie handling (or IE's for
>>>that matter, which AFAIK uses the same format) is no more or less
>>>proprietary thans Communicator's.
>>>
>>>Christian
>>>
>> Yes, the cookie files look the same. The problem is how the cookie
>>is handled in real-time as it is passed through the browser. Maybe all
>>the programmers on this group who don't think this is an issue of any
>>concern to Mozilla programmers need to vote to get rid of all that fancy
>>cookie handling stuff written into Mozilla before you all attempt to
>>make it even more elaborate than you did.
>>
>
>I've downloaded Cookie Pal to see how it works. It basically awaits the
>Windows message box
>which pops up when a cookie is received, intercepts it, and
>automatically sends either 'Accept Cookie' or 'Reject Cookie'. This
>won't work with XUL, since I don't think external apps can easily detect
>XUL-popups, since they are rendered by Mozilla itself, not the Windows
>GUI subsystem. This in indeed a problem, although it doesn't have
>anything directly to do with Mozilla's cookie processing, but the way
>the GUI is drawn. I don't think that there's an easy solution to this
>problem, since XUL isn't going to go away anytime soon. I guess in an
>embedded version of Mozilla like Kmeleon(although I don't know whether
>it has *any* cookie handling capatbilites, i.e. opens a message box when
>a cookie arrives), Cookie Pal could easily be adapted to work with it.
>
>Christian
>
Your downloading and checking out Cookie Pal was most appreciated.
Thanks for helping to explain what you see as the problem that Mozilla
has in receiving information about cookies from Windows messages. I
guess at this point the main hope for my request is that enough Mozilla
writers have seen that the cookie management as it stands will probably
not satisfy enough of the people who are the type to have some
significant concern about exactly how and to what extent cookies are
used with various websites, and will probably be pointless to have at
all for most other people. My suggestion is that Cookie Pal should be
the model for what Mozilla should do, or maybe someone can figure a
workaround to have Windows notice the cookies that Mozilla receives so
that Cookie Pal can then work directly with the cookie file.
