The BugAThon is important for layout and should have its own page, the need for testcases in the current page is underestimated and the reason why we need more testcases should be more emphasized: - for non obvious dupes only with testcases it is possible to spot the duplicates - web pages come and go sometimes faster than the bugs are fixed, testcases attached to bugzilla are a guarantee that once found bugs do not get lost - if a page without a testcase changes the bug will be either marked as invalid or wfm. - the key engineers do have a bunch of bugs assigned to them, so it is natural that well formed bug reports with a obvious testcase will be fixed in first order - I think there should be a hint for people with low bugzilla permissions that attaching a valid testcase to a bug increases the chances that the bug will be right targeted and fixed. - the testcases are not only used during bug fixing they are an important part of the layout regression testing, because usually they contain edge cases, which should be taken into account when changing layout. - they become part of the mozilla framework http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/layout/html/tests/ I like the current setup with queries about bugzilla components and bug assignees. It focuses people on one area, so that they start to get deeper knowledge in this area. With that increased knowledge they are better able to spot duplicates and relationships. I dont think that Hixie-xx bugs need special attention, hixie simply makes the best cases. I think we need more the testcases on the bugs where the submitter writes:the page layout is wrong, with a testcase we know why. So my wish would be, to have as much as possible testcases and people who know these testcases and are able to improve the bug summaries. I have no idea about the benefits other that people will know that they have helped a lot. From a political point of view I think we have to maintain the BugAThon as long as mozilla has this huge number of layout bugs. It will be the wrong message if we stop to ask for help with the layout bugs, because it will indicate that we are satisfied with the current situation. The BugAThon is also probably the easiest way to contribute to mozilla, so we will attract more people, some of them may later require bigger doses (fix bugs). Bernd
