Pascal Chevrel wrote: > > Jay Garcia wrote: > > >>Pascal Chevrel wrote: >> >> >>>Gervase Markham wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>>The page does not read like a joke. "We can all spell. Try learning - >>>>>it's a useful life skill. Really." Doesn't sound like a joke to me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>It's not a joke. That bit is deadly serious. Fifty years ago people >>>>could spell, because they couldn't offload the work on machines. >>>>Learning to spell means all your handwritten (yes, some people still do >>>>that) communications will also be understandable. >>>> >>>>Correct spelling has a purpose - a language agrees on standard spellings >>>>in its alphabet of the words for particular things or concepts in order >>>>to promote clear communication between individuals. Better spelling >>>>leads to better communication. >>>> >>>> >>>Gerv, >>> >>>I find your argumentation very narrow-minded. You forget that most of the >>>people in the world speak and write more than one language. I, for one, >>>definitely need a multilingual spell checker in mozilla, just like in NS4, >>>because I write e-mails in three different languages everyday. Just like Sam, >>>I find the "We can all spell. Try learning - it's a useful life skill. >>>Really." insulting. What do you expect from non-English speaking users? To >>>have an encyclopedic knowledge of your language ? Have you ever thought that >>>most of the people need spell checkers because they write in a language which >>>is not their mother toungue ? >>> >>>Pascal >>> >>> >>> >>Then why don't you use Netscape 6.2 for your email? It has a >>spell-checker. 6.2 is Mozilla 0.9.4+. Use Mozilla strictly for testing >>purposes, etc. Remember, Mozilla is not an end-user application. What >>works today may not work tomorrow or from day to day as the nightlies >>unfold, who knows. >> >>-- >>Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion >>Novell MCNE-5/CNI-Networking Technologies-OSI >>UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org >> > > I use Mozilla because : > - NS 6.2 is more buggy and has much less features than mozilla (tabs, labels, view > all headers, favicon, broken image icon...)
Yes, of course, because 6.2 is 0.9.4+ and has basically the same bugs, etc as that version of Mozilla as well as the same features available in that version as well. Mozilla 0.9.5+ is ahead of 6.2 for that same reason. > - there is no Win32 version of Beonex and the linux version is as much beta > software as mozilla is > - And, most importantly, I follow the Mozilla project, promote it and file bugs to > help as much as I can. Just like lots of other end-users. Congratulations > A few observations about what you said : > > I've been using Mozilla for a year now and I download nightlies very often (I have > a fast connection), I've never lost any data and Mozilla was always more stable > than NS4, NS6.x or IE5.5/6 on my machine. It may not please developpers, but there > are lots of end-users using Mozilla as their primary browser, probably more than > NS6.x users. Most of the amateur web designers I know (like me) have installed > mozilla and promote it along with W3C standards. All the professional web designers > I know (and I know many !) haven't installed it and do not plan to. They work for a > target audience which is 80% IE-15% NS4 and their main concerns are called > profitability and client deadlines. So before being scornful and rude with > end-users, I think that coders should realize that they are their main support. How > many ex-NS4 users would now be IE users if we, mozilla *users*, had not shown them > an alternative ? > > More generally, I think that the problem is that some programmers show a clear > contempt for users and follow the old "users are too dumb to have a clue" rule. If > you look at the thread, you will notice that users do not complain about the lack > of spell checker but about the lack of courteasy. > > Pascal > Courtesy abounded in spell-check posts 1 thru 100. Irritation/annoyance prevailed from 101 thru 199 and from 200 to the present all hell broke loose and deservedly so IMHO. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion Novell MCNE-5/CNI-Networking Technologies-OSI UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org
