On 15.06.02 01:15, Michael J Gruber Replied As Follows:

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> 06/13/2002 02:31 PM Jay Garcia venit, vidit, dixit:
> 
>  > Nice post, Michael. I think I'll let you volunteer to make the next
>  > "informative" post as I did. I don't think you'll get near as much
>  > flak as I did ... :-)
> 
> I'm not a developper, but by doing some peer support and diverting OT
> posts away at the same time I feel I can contribute a bit.

Well, I got blasted for merely using "Developer" without further
explanation. But if you're a "developer" then you know WHO you are and
how you contribute to the project. If you're NOT a developer and do not
contribute to the project, the same is true. Somehow, people get
offended by "terms that apply". I never figured that out yet. You either
is or you isn't. My intention was not to ridicule but rather make an
attempt to draw a "line" so to speak. The line 'to the left' goes here,
the line 'to the right' goes there.

"I feel I can contribute a bit" ... Yes, you most certainly do, thanks!!

> I catch myself sometimes thinking: Why haven't they implemented this or
> that? Why has that bug been open for so long? How come 1.0 crash all the
> time? But then I think: He wait - it's free, and it's all volunteers
> (okay, there's AOL/Netscape, but still). So you guys should deserve some
> respect.


Thanks, we do what we can with the resources available ..


> But what's worse: feeding of news.mozilla.org to secnews seems to be
> badly delayed. My reply to that user.js guy hasn't appeared on secnews yet.
> That's probably why that guy keeps posting the same question to the
> wrong group; he's going through secnews. A speedy feed might avoid
> things like that. I replied to him by e-mail now.

The "feeds" are under scrutiny as we speak, things are changing, it's in
management's hands at the moment. I have a mail dialog going at the
moment with "management" trying to sort this "feed thing" out. I'm
waiting just like everyone else is waiting for answers.

> Hoping for a new mozilla.dev hierarchy (in your interest...)...

>From where I sit, it's closer to reality more then ever now.

> Michael
> 
> P.S.: Wanted to send this by e-mail, but it get's auto-non-replied.
> P.P.S.: Your and my post haven't appeared on secnews yet; I'm not
> allowed to post on news.mozilla.org. This is not so handy :|
> 

Waddaya mean you're not *allowed* to post on news.mozilla.org ???

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