On Sun, 13 May 2001, JTK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> lordpixel wrote:
>> As an aside: Your use of deliberate mispellings (Maozilla) is
>> unnecessary.
>
> Unnecessarily HI-LARIOUS!
Don't flatter yourself.
> Take a look at this picture of a Soviet WWII-vintage Yakolev 7-B:
> http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/yak-7b-color.jpg
That's one cool plane!
Oh, BTW, it's "Yakovlev" not "Yakolev". And the Yakovlev Yak-7B was
one of the most powerful plane of the Soviet Union at the time, so
don't knock it.
> Replace the white "1" on the side with "MOZILLA.ORG", and you have:
> http://www.mozilla.org/banners/mozilla2_03.gif
Hey, you're right, one of our banners is reminiscent of a very fast,
pretty small, very powerful plane with a long range. Excellent! Nice
to see that we have such high aspirations!
> And when I first saw it, I wondered aloud "what's with the commie
> graphics?". Assuming Mozilla was a successful product, which do you
> think would be the majority reaction amongst users?
In all likelihood, none, since Mozilla is not targeted at "users" but
at "distributors". Thankfully, distributors tend to be much more
interested in the technical abilities of the product they will be
using rather than any possible political parallels that may be found
in the project's artwork.
> Do you have any idea what Soviet==Communism is all about? *Any*
> idea? Clearly not, so let me put it this way: if we were in, say,
> the now-defunct USSR, or even present-day China, having this
> discussion, I'd probably have a govenment-issued 7.62mm pistol
> bullet in my forehead by now. Why? Because I "questioned authority".
> Because I "asked the wrong questions".
I think you might be confusing "communism" with "dictatorship". It is
true that many dictatorships have arisen in communist political
climates, and under the false label of "communism", but that is merely
because humans as a whole are easily fooled.
Communism itself is one of several models of ideal societies -- one
where there is no poverty, where everyone is equal, and where work is
evenly distributed amongst the people. Unfortunately, due to flaws in
our race (for example, laziness, greed, and gullibility), few
communist societies have lasted very long. (The most successful tend
to be small, isolated tribes with low technology.)
> And you think it's OK for Mozilla to be associated with that.
> Jinkies.
We should be proud to be associated with an ideal model for society.
(Free software projects (including Mozilla) often naturally end up
following another model for society, namely meritocracy. Of course,
free software projects are not full societies, merely communities, so
they are able to stay as meritocracies without turning into "evil".)
> Can't be you, you don't even realize the evils of Communism.
Clearly not. How can shared wealth, equal work and no poverty be evil?
Oh wait, you're talking about dictatorships again. Sorry.
BTW, I noticed that you are not using your real e-mail address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is this because you are too ashamed of your trolling to do it without
a veil of anonymity?
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