On Tuesday 14 June 2005 03:10, Tyler Close wrote: > Hi Heikki, > > On 6/13/05, Heikki Toivonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and are willing to pay for the chrome real estate it takes. > > I don't understand this complaint. The petname tool is *tiny*. It's > just a text field.
I've been thinking about this. I think the chrome / real estate argument may be out of date. Which is to say it needs to be re-tested by the HCI folks. Here's the thing. Back in 1995 there were chrome wars going on and it was an issue. But those days were with advanced users, people who drove their browsers. Anyone on the net then knew what a modem was. In the intervening decade we've shifted user base and now there are ordinary people who use browsers. Someone's Mom, for example. These people don't drive their browsers, they are transported by them. They simply don't have the skills or viewpoint that makes them care about the arcania of chrome and real eastate. Observation that I've seen bears this out, and not just in the mild, but dramatically: I've noticed that ordinary users who are not computer people use several, sometimes half a dozen toolbars. So much so that the display component for the HTML is reduced to as little as a third of the real estate. And they're quite happy. I've even pointed this out a couple of times, to these users, and had a bit of trouble getting my point through. And when they do get it, they shrug and ignore it. They're happy with their laughably reduced real estate, and toolbars competing to waste the chrome. They do what users do, ignore me coz I'm not talking to their interests, just another techie with another woftam idea. So I suspect the "real estate" argument is in need of re-testing. We may find from user experiments that it no longer applies, it might have really been a techie thing all along, and that user base is no longer as dominating as it was. Ping, Tyler, Amir, any chance of factoring that into your tests? (No I'm not sure how you'd test this ...) iang -- Advances in Financial Cryptography, Issue 1: https://www.financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000458.html Daniel Nagy, On Secure Knowledge-Based Authentication Adam Shostack, Avoiding Liability: An Alternative Route to More Secure Products Ian Grigg, Pareto-Secure _______________________________________________ Mozilla-security mailing list [email protected] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-security
