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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 3. huhtikuuta 2001 4:58
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: vocal eliminator
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Does anyone have experience using Peak or any plug-in's 
> (Ionizer?) for vocal
> > elimination? (strictly for home use)
> > 
> > I would appreciate any help or suggestions.
> 
> 
> yes, here's what i've done in the past.
> 
> i use the vocal remover plug in the bias sfx package as a 
> start. import
> a stereo file, run the plug, save as a copy with an appropriate name. 
> 
> second part of process is to re-open original file, use a low pass (hi
> cut) filter and move the frequency up so that you get as much bass and
> kick as possible without getting vocals as well. save as  the 
> bass only
> file. 
> 
> now i re-combine the two files...the vocal removed file and the bass
> only file. they are the same length so it's easy. i use the 
> add command
> in peak. adding about 60% of the bass only track to the vocal removed
> track has worked for me. 
> 
> as needed i may also run the whole thing through a compressor 
> or limiter
> (very lightly) to make them seem very together again. 
> 
> this process removes the center information of the file while 
> regaining
> the bass lost in the sfx vocal remover plug in itself. this combo has
> has good effect for me and i've used it a few times. if you don't
> already know, you need vocal material centered in the stereo field for
> it to work. also, this removes the original centered dry 
> vocal. it does
> not remove the reverb on the vocal, so you may here a kind of 
> "ghosted"
> verb only vocal take after the process is done. it's unavoidable. more
> dry original vocals work well on this. i did this on a bette midler
> track and you would have thought it came from the studio without
> vocals...very nice. it  doesn't work on choral music, and heavily
> processed tunes will have the verb still present. if someone 
> is going to
> sing over the tracks ala karaoke, you are golden. my work was done for
> high school singers who wanted vocal removed (i usually call them
> vocally diminsihed) tracks to sing over. this process works for me on
> abot 80% of what i run through it. some cannot be done, and then you
> have to look for instrumental versions, karaoke versions, or 
> midi files. 
> -- 
> cheers,
> 
> Paul
> 
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