................................. To leave Commie, hyper to http://commie.oy.com/commie_leaving.html ................................. An interesting thread from another mailing list... ---> jab | commie | http://commie.oy.com "Less is moo." - The Holy Mad Cow http://www.holymadcow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: lincolnlab [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15. elokuuta 2001 2:54 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Mastering Questions > > > Dear Peak Users, > > I was reading a catalog from a CD-replicating company. In it, > they listed > their "Mastering" packages. > > The package included "making the overall volume [of the CD] INDUSTRY > STANDARD." They promised "Sonic/spectral exciting/enhancing." > > Could someone tell me what the INDUSTRY STANDARD VOLUME is? > > How can I "sonic/spectral exciting/enhancing"-ize my CDs? (seriously). > > By the way, they include a picture of Bias Peak Software in > action in their > catalog. :-) > > Thanks in advance, > > George > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Judson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15. elokuuta 2001 4:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: DAW-MAC > Subject: Re: Mastering Questions > > > CAREFUL!!! It seems the industry standard these days is "too > loud, all the > time!" I am on several professional audio e-lists, and in > touch with a number > of mastering engineers (they really are different from us > recording engineers > and musicians, for good reason) and there is universal > feeling among those I > respect most that many - if not most - commercial CDs have > been compressed too > much, and destroyed in their digital and sonic, as well as > musical, integrity. > > I personally feel that the most exciting sound is the natural > dynamics that > the musician intends in their performance, and that this > trend toward really > loud all the time sound is detrimental to music in a > concession to making it > seem that the best seller has to be LOUDER than a really good > recording by > really good musicians. > > There is a maximum level for digital audio, but if it never > gets any softer > than that, where is the music, and the feeling? > > I'm cross posting this in the hope that some people who are > just learning > engineering become aware that there is such a thing as > subtlety in this > industry... > > Lou > > Lou Judson . Intuitive Audio > Spoken Word and Music Production > 415-388-3702 . [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Bethel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15. elokuuta 2001 4:24 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Mastering Questions > > > As loud as you want it... > > -TOM- > > Being a mastering engineer myself I can only say there "is no > standard" The > trend in pop music today seems to be louder and louder with higher and > higher levels on the CDs. In mastering we call it hyper > compression. As long > as you don't go over OdBFS you can make it as loud as you > want to or as loud > as can make it. Most mastering engineers are becoming upset > with the "over > the top" approach to mastering and want to return to the days > when there was > still some dynamics in the music. > > Most times today when I get a mix down CD or DAT to master > the levels are so > compressed the VU meter looks like it is registering a tone > because it never > moves. The client wants it more louder and when it leaves > here and goes on > to a radio station for air play the radio station uses even more > compression. There is no life left in the music by the time a > listener hears > it. Everyone wants their music to be the loudest so it will > get "noticed". > Maybe it is time for someone to do everything to make their music more > dynamic instead of just loud. Then it really would get > noticed when it was > played. Just an idea.... > > MTCW > > -TOM- > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Korntheuer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 15. elokuuta 2001 3:52 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Mastering Questions > > > > "Sonic/spectral exciting/enhancing" is marketing speak for "come > spend money with us." > > If you are mastering a CD for submission to a pressing plant, and you > don't have experience mastering audio CDs, then it may be worth your > money to have a mastering house do the final tweaking on your project. > > "Overall volume [of the CD] INDUSTRY STANDARD" is proper gain change > / normalization. "Sonic/spectral exciting" is doing any final eq et > al. You could do all of yourself with Peak, a few good VST plug-ins, > a tuned room and a good pair of reference monitors. Getting Peak and > the VST plug-ins are easy; acquiring a properly tuned room and > reference monitors is another story. > > Paul > -----Original Message----- > From: moose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 14. elokuuta 2001 21:39 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Mastering Questions > > > On 15/8/01 2:24 AM, "Tom Bethel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Maybe it is time for someone to do everything to make their > music more > > dynamic instead of just loud. Then it really would get > noticed when it was > > played. Just an idea.... > I had a track released on a compilation by Negative Gain back > in '99 & my > track was the quietist on the whole album, but it did get > noticed because it > was also the most dynamic. just goes to show that the theory > does work! > > }:-) > moose aka Alaska Highway > > > email: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
