Rajeev, No, I don't think so. Did you all disagree with my reasoning? Tony
Anthony Skjellum, PhD Professor of Computer Science and Chair of Excellence Director, SimCenter University of Tennessee at Chattanooga (UTC) tony-skjel...@utc.edu [or skjel...@gmail.com] cell: 205-807-4968 ________________________________ From: mpi-forum <mpi-forum-boun...@lists.mpi-forum.org> on behalf of Thakur, Rajeev via mpi-forum <mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 2:23 PM To: Jim Dinan <james.di...@gmail.com> Cc: Thakur, Rajeev <tha...@anl.gov>; Main MPI Forum mailing list <mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Progress Question Does it mean that in the following program, although all processes have called barrier, some process may not exit the barrier for 100 days? MPI_Init MPI_Barrier sleep(100 days) MPI_Finalize Rajeev From: Jim Dinan <james.di...@gmail.com> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 10:31 AM To: "Thakur, Rajeev" <tha...@anl.gov> Cc: Main MPI Forum mailing list <mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org> Subject: Re: [Mpi-forum] Progress Question Hi Rajeev, Yes, that's the question and my initial answer was the same as yours. However, we then started talking about the implementation of the barrier, which led to the second example. For example, consider a situation where there is an error in transmission and the implementation needs to enter the progress engine to retry a send operation in software. ~Jim. On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 5:10 PM Thakur, Rajeev <tha...@anl.gov<mailto:tha...@anl.gov>> wrote: Jim, I don’t fully understand your question. Is it “If all processes reach MPI_Barrier, are they guaranteed to exit the barrier without the need for any other MPI function to be called on any process?” I would say yes. Rajeev From: mpi-forum <mpi-forum-boun...@lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:mpi-forum-boun...@lists.mpi-forum.org>> on behalf of Jim Dinan via mpi-forum <mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org>> Reply-To: Main MPI Forum mailing list <mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org>> Date: Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 12:31 PM To: Main MPI Forum mailing list <mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org<mailto:mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org>> Cc: Jim Dinan <james.di...@gmail.com<mailto:james.di...@gmail.com>> Subject: [Mpi-forum] Progress Question Hi All, A colleague recently asked a question that I wasn't able to answer definitively. Is the following code guaranteed to make progress? MPI_Barrier(); if rank == 1 create_file("test") if rank == 0 while not_exists("test") sleep(1); That is, can rank 1 require rank 0 to make MPI calls after its return from the barrier, in order for rank 1 to complete the barrier? If the code were written as follows: isend(..., other_rank, &req[0]) irecv(..., other_rank, &req[1]) waitall(2, req) if rank == 1 create_file("test") if rank == 0 while not_exists("test") sleep(1); I think it would clearly not guarantee progress since the send data can be buffered. Is the same true for barrier? Cheers, ~Jim.
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