On Tuesday 08 September 2009 00:57:28 Bill Hart wrote:
> 2009/9/7 Jason Moxham <[email protected]>:
> > On Saturday 05 September 2009 16:30:38 Bill Hart wrote:
> >> I'm happy to bump our compatibility number if that is that is required.
> >> However we should be meticulous about ensuring we are compatible with
> >> GMP 4.3.1. In particular we need to ensure we normalise our extended gcd
> >> precisely the same way as them. We should also go through the
> >> documentation and ensure every single function has exactly the same
> >> prototype and definition.
> >> We really need to verify carefully though that this is the problem John
> >> is encountering.
> >
> > A quick look and it appears we are compatible with 4.3.1 , but not 4.4
> > mpz_inits(....,0) is one function we are missing, can Windows do this
> > sort of function ?
> > Have we verified that changing the version number does fix the gcc
> > problem?
>
> Ah yeah varargs or something. I can't see that being a C99 thing as
> the rest of GMP is not C99.
>
> >> The original intention was to never change the GMP version
> >> fro 4.2.1 because that is the version of GMP which we forked.
> >
> > I would of thought the reason for version numbers is to see wether the
> > lib is compatible with version x.y.z , not which version we forked from ,
> > as who would care about that?
>
> That's certainly the main use for version numbers. If people would
> prefer us to update it, I'm happy to.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a "Right Thing To Do".
>

Apparently the proper way is

http://sources.redhat.com/autobook/autobook/autobook_91.html
http://www.linuxshowcase.org/2000/2000papers/papers/browndavid/browndavid_html/

but I get the impression that most people rely on the version we set ie 1.2.1 
or gmp's 4.3.1  etc 



> >> Bill.
> >>
> >> 2009/9/5 Jason Moxham <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> > On Saturday 05 September 2009 13:05:19 John Cremona wrote:
> >> > > 2009/9/5 Minh Nguyen <[email protected]>:
> >> > > > Hi John,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:31 AM, John
> >> > > > Cremona<[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > <SNIP>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Now, (1) the installed version of gmp is 4.2.1:
> >> > > >> j...@selmer%grep GMP_VERSION /usr/include/gmp.h
> >> > > >> #define GMP_VERSION "4.2.1"
> >> > > >
> >> > > > One way (at least for me) to debug this problem is to compile Sage
> >> > > > 4.1.1 and 4.1.2.alpha0 on the same machine without GMP installed
> >> > > > system-wide. The system-wide installation of GMP might be done
> >> > > > through, say, a Linux distribution's package manager. After that,
> >> > > > remove the system-wide GMP and proceed with compiling the above
> >> > > > two versions of Sage. I'll try this approach on the Ubuntu 9.04
> >> > > > machine in my office, and report the results later.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll have a go, though this would involve disabling/hiding the
> >> > > system gmp, and doesn't gcc use that?  This machine is owned by me &
> >> > > Bill Hart (so I would have to ask him before doing that).
> >> > >
> >> > > Here's what happened, in order:
> >> > > 1. Machine installed late July, with ubuntu and gcc-4.3.3.
> >> > > 2. Sage 4.1.1 builds fine with that.
> >> > > 3. Bill finds that 4.3.3 is broken, in that it compilies his correct
> >> > > source code into something which does not run properly (for details,
> >> > > ask Bill).
> >> > > 4. Bill obtains source for gcc-4.4.1, but finds it does not build
> >> > > owing to gmp not being recent enough.
> >> > > 5. John installs latest gmp.
> >> > > 6. Bill successfully builds gcc-4.4.1, which is now the machine's
> >> >
> >> > default.
> >> >
> >> > > 7. John fails to build sage-4.1.2.alpha0.
> >> > >
> >> > > At some point I also installed mpir on this machine.  So now we have
> >> > > the following confusing situation:
> >> > >
> >> > > /usr/include/gmp.h is actually mpir 1.2.2 (aliasing gmp 4.2.1)
> >> > > /usr/local/include/gmp.h is gmp 4.3.1
> >> >
> >> > So does the installation of GCC-4.4 require a GMP >4.3 ? , if so then
> >> > to get
> >> > it to use MPIR all we need to do is bump our gmp compatibility version
> >> > numbers from 4.2.1 to 4.3.1 , assuming we have implemented any new
> >> > documented
> >> > features.
> >> >
> >> > > I don't know where the original system gmp is (or even if there was
> >> > > one) since the only other files o nthe system called gmp.h are in
> >> > > sage-*/local directories.  And of course there are various versions
> >> > > of the library in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib.
> >> > >
> >> > > John
>
> 


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