All list members, and especially Minneapolis voters that receive these calls 
(In an effort to keep this Mpls specific, List-Manager) need to know that 
the Minnesota State Supreme Court upheld the ruling that even for political 
purposes, there has to be a live person on the line before the tape-recorded 
voice message starts to play.

In no way is it an attepmt to restrict free-speech, it simply gives the 
person answering the call the opportunity to deny it.  It's more of a choice 
issue than a freem speech issue.

Personally, it's lazy campaigning...

Cheers!

Darren Pierson
St. Paul-Ward 1


>From: "Steve Minn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Multiple recipients of list 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Automated dialing
>Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 13:51:48 -0600
>
>Many thanks to Mr. Pierson for posting the statute regarding automated
>dialing, but a correction is necessary regarding illegality.
>
>The statute is primarily intended for commercial marketing purposes, not
>restriction of free speech expression.  I doubt the statute meets a
>constitutional test on the free speech doctrine, let alone the
>jurisdictional question for President. US Senate or Congress.  He may have 
>a
>point for state races, but then again, there's that nagging free speech
>doctrine. Most candidates who were warned about this have decided to go
>ahead anyway, primarily because of this basic constitutional protection.
>
>In any event, I have done this type of calling myself in past campaigns, 
>and
>it is very cost effective.  It is particularly good if run during the day,
>when people are not home.  The recorded message left on voice mail or
>answering machines can not be discerned as anything less than an actual
>call.
>
>Interestingly, though it was the DFL party and DFL Atty. General Mike Hatch
>who complained to the Foley (4th CD) Campaign about the Ventura calls a few
>weeks ago, it is the DFL that is making calls from "President Clinton" and
>"Al Gore" throughout the Metro and in particular, Minneapolis.
>
>Steve Minn
>
>----------
> >From: "Darren Pierson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Jessie knows my number!
> >Date: Mon, Nov 6, 2000, 12:55 PM
> >
>
> > These automated dialing calls are against the law.  I think many 
>campaigns
> > have been advised to cease this activity, but obviously it's continuing 
>with
> > others.  Here is the statute number and web site to view the actual
> > language...
> >
> > Be advised, if your campaign is taking part in this activity, they are
> > breaking the law...
> >
> > 325E.27
> >
> > http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/stats/325E/27.html
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Darren Pierson
> > St. Paul-Ward 1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "R.T.Rybak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Jessie knows my number!
> >>Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:39:43 -0600
> >>
> >>I just got a call from Jesse Ventura.  Well, actually it was a RECORDED
> >>call...on behalf of the Independence legislative candidate in my area. I
> >>found it interesting that the Indepdence Party is working harder in this
> >>race, it seems, than the Republicans.
> >>
> >>I also saw evidence of that this weekend when I was leafleting for Neva
> >>Walker, and found lots of Independence literature on doorsteps...but 
>none
> >>for Republicans.
> >>
> >>It is list-appropriate to ask what other tactics people are seeing to 
>turn
> >>out city voters?
> >>
> >>R.T. Rybak
> >>East Harriet.
> >>
> >
> > 
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