---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:35:32 -0400 (EDT) From: David Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: j harmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Mpls] Strib poll and racial tension It's a hard concept to understand when the prevailing cultural concepts of diversity include recognition of Catholics and non-northern Europeans. There are no visible lines of connection except skin color. Of course this is an oversimplification. Some African women in the Twin Cities have been opening hair salons or working out of their homes to offer hair braiding. Lot's of African-American women are flocking to them to get their hair done. This is a start. The cultural concept of the "other" is not limited to skin color. Nor is it a particularly "American" concept either. It may come as news to you, but during the immigration period of 1880-1920, the earlier settled German Jews couldn't stand the "tired, poor, huddled masses" of Eastern European Jews. So common religion is out too! I think the issue is the perception of limited resources and opportunities, and the competition for themt On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, j harmon wrote: > I'd be interested in finding out why African Americans are drawing a line > between themselves and Somalians. Somalia's in Africa last I checked. If > they've relocated here, they're basically African Americans. Every race in > the world embraces and touts the differences among themselves, not the > likenesses. That seems to cause problems. We're all one race - human. While > it's perceived that caucasians are the cause of most racial bigotry, it's > been my experience that no one is harder on an ethnic minority or group than > another ethnic minority or group. It's a shame. > JHarmon > Cleveland > > > >From: Matthew Dufresne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Mpls] Strib poll and racial tension > >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:42:17 -0500 > > > >Bill and the rest of the group, > > > >Do you feel that Non-European immigrants, Such as the Somali or Hmong, > >would have the same feelings towards African Americans and advantages of > >white privilege that other Europeans may have had in the past? > > > >How do you all feel about what African Americans might be feeling > >towards the Somali community as well as other immigrants from other > >African countries? > > > >Maybe there is room for discussion here on race relations as they start > >as a new immigrant and how we as an already established community (the > >City of Minneapolis) may positively effect where this challenging issue > >may go in the next decade and generation. > > > >Respectfully, > > > >Matthew Dufresne > >Central > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > On the relationship between Black and new immigrant communities there is > >a > > > famous Malcolm X quote. On witnesing some newly arrived Eastern > >European > > > children at the airport, all dressed in native clothing he said "such > >pretty > > > little children. The first English word they're going to learn is > >nigger." > > > > > > America has a long history of immigrants leapfrogging over the Black > > > community. Racism has always been a way of proving you are a real > >American. > > > Many immigrant communities may even object to being called white but > >have no > > > objection to white privelege. I speak of communities but of course each > > > individual makes his own choice on this issue. > > > > > > Irish and Italian are now clearly white, others have attained white > >status if > > > not name. Perhaps this is what the 44-year old woman was refering to. > > > > > > Bill Cooley > >_______________________________________ > >Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy > >Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > >http://e-democracy.org/mpls > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > _______________________________________ > Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy > Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: > http://e-democracy.org/mpls > _______________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - Minnesota E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
