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Some clarifications are in order...
--- Michael Atherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excerpted from American Heritage Talking Dictionary:
>
> ma-chine (m-shen)n. Abbr. mach. 6. An organized
> group of people whose members are or appear to be
> under the control of one or more leaders: a
> political machine.
>
> The DFL is an organized group of people which is
> under the control of one or more leaders.
This is true of the Republican Party, as well. Or the
Kiwanis. Or the local softball league. Any
organization that has a chairperson, president,
captain or any other leadership structure, by your
definition, must be a "machine". I guess only
anarchists are safe from this diabolical scheme.
> Maybe, but a lot of DFLers were roundly criticized
> for voting for Nader.
> And as I recall some party members were suggesting
> that people who
> voted for or supported Nader should have been
> sanctioned.
The DFL'ers who were roundly criticized were the ones
who either held party office (sort of a conflict of
interest to be a leader in one party and openly
support a candidate running against you) and those who
this year either were or were considering asking for
the party's help in seeking city election. Rejecting
the party one year and then asking for its assistance
the following year does tend to make some of us a bit
cranky, I will admit.
> As I recall, when Steve Minn was in office the other
> members of the
> council, who were all DFLers, use to have a weekly
> caucus from which
> he was excluded. It seemed to me at the time that
> this was intended to
> marginalize any impact he might have had on issues.
> If it look like a
> beast and acts like a beast, maybe it is a beast.
And as I recall, the DFL members of the City Council
has had a weekly caucus meeting since well before Mr.
Minn even moved to Minnesota. Ask Dennis Schulstad. Or
Barbara Carlson. And even though it exists there
hardly were any votes where Minn was the only member
voting in opposition to the other 12. If the DFL in
this city were a true machine, we would have been
capable of isolating him far more than one stupid
little weekly meeting. Besides, Steve didn't need any
help in isolating himself. He did a great job all by
his lonesome.
Loki Anderson
Marshall Terrace
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Bill the Bard
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