>From my perspective YOU are missing the point. Dyna is merely stating a question -
>of what do we do if - and how to protect against such things happening. Other
>discussions here have been about backlash racism - same thing smaller scale -
>protecting individuals and/or larger populations.
Seems pretty damn relevant to me. It is both a time to heal but also a time to take
stock of what to do not - look at how our airport in the "heartland" is having to
dramatically change its way of doing business from here on out...
Liz Greenbaum
Longfellow
"Becky Boland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to figure out two things. First, why is this relevant to
>Minneapolis Issues. There are other lists which have been posted in this
>forum that you may post these type of related things upon.
>
>And secondly, who at this point wants to hear about how someone could blow
>us up? This is a crud e-mail, and frankly not one that I think any person
>should be writing at this point. While I don't know Dyna, I am sure that
>she is a wonderful person. But I would question the posting of this "How to
>guide" anywhere--and consequently wonder about the author.
>
>Now is a time for unity, for taking positive action against the people who
>did this to us. Not a time for pettiness and "How to guides" to blowing
>Minneapolis up.
>
>Becky Boland
>Bryant
>
>
>>From: Dyna Sluyter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [Mpls] How to blow up Minneapolis...
>>Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:54:34 -0500
>>
>> First, a few disclaimers... I am not advocating any acts such
>>as these. I am merely showing how absurdly vulnerable to terrorism we
>>are. While I tell folks how easy big trucks are to hotwire, I'm not
>>going to explain how to release the brakes and put a truck, train, or
>>whatever into motion.
>>
>> So... what if you were a terrorist of whatever stripe,
>>wanting to do some damage. Let's assume they've actually secured air
>>transport (they haven't).
>>No problem- what does a terrorist need to make a very big bang? Fuel,
>>an ignition source, and maybe a delivery mechanism.
>>
>> Fuel is easy to come by, we are a society powered by fossil
>>fuels and they're all over the place. A car with a half full gas tank
>>is the equivalent of a small bomb, just think what you can do with a
>>tank truck or railcar(s) full! And gasoline is just one of the milder
>>petrochemicals, some of them burn or propagate much better. Some are
>>poisons too, but I'll save that for a later post. Within the
>>corporate limits of Minneapolis you'll find no shortage of trucks,
>>trailers, railcars, and even a couple of tank farms of highly
>>explosive fuel. How do several rows of multithousand pound tanks
>>sound? We got 'em, and one's a little to close to me for comfort. It
>>is unguarded, and the fence would present little challenge.
>>
>> Ignition sources aren't too hard to find. With lights and
>>cigarettes and open flames everywhere our terrorist probably won't
>>even need to provide one. Transportation isn't too hard either.
>>Simpler yet, our terrorist could merely rely on the wind to
>>distribute a flammable gas. Or the sewer system to deliver a heavier
>>than air liquid. Need a truck? Hotwire it- most have no steering
>>column locks or theft alarms. But trucks limit you to a mere 25 tons
>>or so of fuel... perhaps you need a trainload? Rail tankcars can
>>carry up to 100 tons of fuel each, and a cut of a dozen or more full
>>ones can usually be found in a siding in or near our fair city. You
>>may need a locomotive or two, but they're even easier to steal than
>>trucks. So you've got a few stolen locomotives and a dozen or so cars
>>of high test. Just wait for the desired wind direction, line your
>>switches for the desired route, and highball!
>>
>> Again, I write not to incite to violence but rather to make
>>us question. Why are trucks and trains left so poorly secured? Why
>>aren't many railroad facilities even protected by a cheesy fence. We
>>are a nation at war, a form of war that we are quite unfamiliar with.
>>We can blow any nation we want off the face of the earth, but have no
>>defense against an enterprising two bit terrorist. Before we can
>>defeat terrorism we must first be able to defend our own cities,
>>never mind our shores.
>>
>> peace,
>> Dyna Sluyter from Hawthorne
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