Further clarification. My statement earlier regarding Denny's post was not
intended to be a personal attack nor did it have anything to do with the DFL
or any DFL endorsed candidate. Nor was it meant to be presented to this list
as if the subsribers were gullible or unable to interpret Denny's post for
themselves. It was my interpretation or misinterpretation of Denny's post.
This is my final post on this subject. In terms of civility, I would ask
that folks who post to the list refrain from characterizations that are
unnecessary, or at the very least, I have an expectation that those
characterizations be backed up and expounded upon.
But, other than hearing about how Denny believes the DFL MACHINE...which
does not exist, is out to get him and any other non-DFL endorsed candidate,
I'd actually like to hear more about Denny's and other candidates
positions/ideas/vision. I think Louis King made this same request a couple
of weeks ago concerning other candidates. It was a good idea then, so I'll
borrow it.
-Brandon
-Powderhorn Park
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W. Brandon Lacy Campos
Community Liaison
Minnesota Men of Color
612-871-1788 x 13
"No odies a tu enemigo, porque si lo haces
eres de alguna manera su esclavo;
tu odio nunca sera mejor que tu paz." Jorge Borges
--Jorge Borges
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Schapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 11:07 PM
Subject: [Mpls] still sounds like quacking
> A few on this list may remember an exchange following my comment that a
> non-DFL-endorsed school board candidate could feel as if he were running
> against a machine.
>
> Two personal attacks were diversions from my main message-that the DFL
> school board endorsement is potent...a self-evident point if ever there
> was one...even if as Jay Clark noted so nicely, this is hardly a serious
> urban political machine in most regards.
>
> Brandon Lacy Campos' misrepresentation that I was trying to fool all you
> gullible listers into thinking there was a school board-specific sample
> ballot has been adequately dealt with in his apology and a conciliatory
> note from his candidate, Patrick Peterson.
>
> Tim Bonham's post has not been addressed, despite some respectful
> off-list exchanges. Because he has chosen not to respond, here goes:
>
> Mr. Bonham's original post:
>
> <<The Minneapolis DFL mailed 37,734 sample ballots in this election. I
> understand the Labor sample ballot was mailed to approximately the same
> number of people. This is a far cry from the "upwards of a quarter
> million" number claimed by Mr. Shapiro. [Schapiro.] That number is just
> plain ridiculous on it's very face -- there aren't even that many voters
> in the entire city! That Mr. Shapiro [Schapiro] is credulous enough to
> believe some damn fool rumor like this, and to carelessly spread it
> around, says much about his lack of qualifications to be on the School
Board.>>
>
> Ouch.
>
> I accept his figure that the DFL M-A I-L-E-D only 37,734 sample
> ballots for the primary. He did omit a few numbers that I do not feel
> unreasonable to include:
>
> ----The DFL printed a lot of sample ballots that were not "mailed."
> According to Mr. Bonham, the total was "not more than 67,000." Will more
> be printed for the general election?
> ----The Central Labor Union produced an additional 12,000 sample ballots
> for the primary and I expect it will produce another bunch for the
> general election.
> ----The DFL produced 140,000 pieces of joint literature for lit drops.
> They are not technically "sample ballots" but clearly part of the DFL
> initiative. Mr. Bonham, in an off-list exchange, suggested that a goodly
> portion of those may be in reserve for the general election. I assume
> additional joint literature will be printed for the general election.
>
> Damn close to a quarter million impressions of each DFL candidate's name
> will be out there by Nov. 7, if you ask me...but even if the number
> turns out to be somewhat less, the disparity is still substantial for a
> campaign that draws little voter scrutiny.
>
> Figuring that most of the money coming into the school board campaigns
> is DFL/Union related, and the average non-DFL candidate has a couple
> thousand dollars, tops, to spend, I think it is reasonable to suggest
> that no candidate can match that name recognition provided by DFL support.
>
> Plus, you have to deal with some folk who play a little fast and loose
> in life and on this list. (On the list you have a wonderful chance to
> defend yourself.)
>
> No whining. I never expected anything else when I filed. And none of
> this is to imply that the DFL candidates (and Kathy Kosnoff) are not
> worthy candidates. Just trying to get the facts straight.
>
> Dennis Schapiro
> Candidate for School Board
> denny4schools.org
>
> Linden Hills
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