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XML is the perfect solution for this type of probleme.
It will work with a rational database or other types databases.
IBM  has DB2 ( http://ibm.com ) and Micosoft' .Net offer XML.
We used DB2's  XML add on with  a WebSphere in a NYC project.

m a al-Kabir
Uptown

Alan Shilepsky wrote:

> Repeat reminder: be sure to clip the previous post, or excerpt what you're referring 
>to in the body of your email.
>
> Constant reminder: our rules allow pointed disagreement but require respectful 
>discussion.
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> I want to thank everyone who directed me to the source of information
> below; but let me make the following suggestions for improvement.
>
> Scads of 40 page PDF files are far from convenient.  I have a CD of
> Oracle instruction manuals in PDF format, and find it barely useable.
> Remember that old distinction between "data" vs. "information?"
>
> Much more useable City Council information would be HTML based documents
> that were searchable, and that used hypertext links to separate summary
> information from the details.  Preferably, the City would maintain a
> web-accessable database table that might have such fields as:
>
>   Date of vote; Short Title; Category; Passed? (y/n); Yea Count; Nay
> Count; Absent Count; Sponsors; CM's voting Yes; CM's voting Nay; Absent
> CM's; hyperlink to an abstract; hyperlink to a full description of the
> item.
>
> I'd have to think about how I would handle this database's One-to-many
> relationships (e.g., Sponsors, Yea and Nay voters; Categories).  But in
> any case I would have the database be searchable at least by keywords in
> the title, by date range, and by categories.  The hypertext drill downs
> would allow a citizen to get the details, without requiring her or him
> to optically scan 40 pages of legalese to find the votes they are
> interested in.
>
> It would be interesting to hear suggestions from the City for Neighbors
> researchers about how the City Council information could have been
> arrayed to make their job of preparing a scorecard easier.
>
> Alan Shilepsky
> Downtown
>
> "Pai, Vaman M" wrote:
> >
> > City Council actions are available on the City's Web site (
> > www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us ). You may also choose to go directly to the
> > following link to see Council actions (without having to travel Downtown)
> >
> > http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/citywork/clerk/actions/
> >
> > Each document is in PDF format -- to view it, you'll need the free Acrobat
> > Reader  <http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html>.
> >
> > Vaman Pai
> > Communications Department
> > City of Minneapolis
> > 350 South 5th Street - Room 301M
> > Minneapolis, MN 55415-1300
> > 612.673.2123
> > 952.365.6588 (pager)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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