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What I find really fascinating about this list is that whenever someone brings up
issues of race or
racism, there is a harsh reaction from two or three people "shouting" that person
down, sometimes
calling for their expulsion from the list. And I must say that there is often an
irrational "tone"
in their "voice", such as in the message below.
What I see is an unwillingness to acknowledge (at least by this small sample) that
racism in its
many forms does exist all around us every day in this community and in probably all
American
communities. These harsh reactions probably tend to stifle much serious conversation
about issues
of race on this list -- and in general in this community. Personally, I think racism
is typically
very subtle and often unintentional, but it is a HUGE factor in political and economic
institutions. I do not know either of the writers below, but I do find merit in what
Mr. Kushner
has to say and I hope he is not discouraged to pursue his thoughts on this list, or in
any other
forum.
Tom Borrup
Elliot Park
Rich Chandler wrote:
> Remember: our rules allow pointed disagreement, but require respectful discussion.
> --
>
> Jordan, if you state that a group is racist, have the
> integrity to stand behind it. A hypothesis is an
> assuption you are trying to prove or disprove. You're
> looking for a different word. Look for one that
> means, "I want to attack a group's credibility without
> being asked to defend my opinion."
>
> If you want to posit that a group is racist, back
> yourself up. And when challenged, do something other
> than repeat yourself.
>
> Rich Chandler - Ward 9
>
> --- Jordan Kushner
> 1) I suggest that many "liberals" and "conservatives"
> as reflected in the poll are basing their opinions
> more an race than on substance.
>
> 2) My hypothesis is that at least a substantial
> percentage of "conservatives" dislike the Mayor
> because she is African American rather than her
> policies.
>
> 3) My hypothesis remains that a substantial portion of
> people describing themselves as conservative dislike
> or "despise" the Mayor because of her race. While I
> posed this statement as a "hypothesis", I cannot avoid
> a personal conclusions that there is a lot of racism
> behind much of the consevatives' hatred of the Mayor.
>
> Jordan Kushner
> 8-?, west powderhorn
>
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