I also read the article today.  To say the least, I was caught somewhat off guard by 
RT's comments.  Granted, the Strib has yet to see a public subsidy for a stadium they 
didn't like so the story MAY be ever so slightly slanted to push and prod our new 
mayor (egad! the press is biased?!  Say it ain't so!  :-) OK, OK, I'm done.)

A list member has brought it to my attention off-list that my comments here and 
elsewhere regarding the stadium have been blatant class warfare.  I sent a lengthy 
email discussing that.  What I said in a private conversation is not important for the 
list, other than to clarify that while I have and continue to remain opposed to 
subsidies for stadiums, I do so not just to be a class-warfarer but rather because I 
have always believed that it was a very poor deal for the public.  This is especially 
in light of other more pressing needs where there is a better return on the public 
investment.

In any case, I digress.  As an opponent of subsidies, I hope RT is not sliding in his 
non-support of public subsidies.  And, knowing that RT is a list member, I hope he'll 
comment and clarify, especially now that he is not a candidate.

Finally, Andy Driscoll mentions no money is impossible.  My thoughts are that if 
indeed land-clearing and cleaning were truly the extent of the investment and there 
were no deals that could bite us later (selling municipal bonds that the Twins/stadium 
default on), even a diehard opponent like me MIGHT consider it a fair compromise.  

Gary Bowman
Mpls., 1-1

On Tue, 20 November 2001, "Andy Driscoll" wrote:

I think it's important to understand that no public money for a stadium is impossible. 
All along it's been expected that land-clearing and cleaning will be critical as will 
infrastructure accommodations for any economic development in the city - perfectly 
appropriate expenditures.

But that's where it ends for me. The structure, the perks, the stadium itself should 
be entirely privately financed. The Mayor cannot walk away from talks and concerns 
over the impending blackmail imposed by Major League Baseball. He must be involved, as 
must the City Council.

Andy Driscoll
Saint Paul

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