In a message dated 11/21/2001 2:25:25 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> "While I believe Ms. Kosnoff was properly chastised for her dismissive post 
 regarding Mr. Atherton, I, and I daresay other list members, share her 
 frustration with the gadfly nature of some of Mr. Atherton's (and, to a 
 lesser extent, Mr. Mann's) education posts. Allow me a few minutes to 
explain 
 why." (snip)

   The board members are less frustrated by the gadfly nature of my posts 
than Mr. Atherton's.  I think I've been insulted!  Let me explain

I agree that the MPS board members have "...the most thankless and slippery 
task of any politicians in the state."  

I agree that "...many of the education posts on this list...almost invariably 
conclude that the school board is failing in its mission to improve education 
in Minneapolis."

It is understandable that MPS board members regard as annoying pests those 
who continually point out that the board is failing to "close the gap" in 
academic achievement between kids in high- and low-poverty neighborhoods.  
However, I am not the least bit sympathetic.  They knew the job was dangerous 
when they took it. 
 
> ...In the interest of creating a debate with a broader perspective, I'd be 
 interested to know how the MPS stacks up versus similarly-sized school 
 districts across the nation in terms of test scores, dropout rates, etc. Are 
 other major urban districts doing an appreciably better job than MPS? (snip)

We can only hope that the quality of education is worse, or is getting worse 
faster, on average, in other big city school districts. Then we could say 
that the MPS is "beating the odds."  Praise Carol Johnson! 
 
> "...One [of the most intractable dilemmas facing the MPS] is the 
not-so-covert discrimination of underperforming school children, which too 
often corresponds to the 
endemic racism and classism that infects the community at-large as much or 
more than MPS officials. To put it bluntly, to what extent does the MPS risk 
losing its higher performing students if it doesn't engage in the 
ability-grouping and preferential teacher assignments that are seemingly 
designed to 
placate the parents of higher-performing students? I understand the "right," "
politically correct" response, which is, for that matter, the legal response: 
All students should be given an equal chance to obtain a quality education. 
(snip)

It is understandable that the parents of high performing students want what 
is best for their own children, and do not want to trade places with the 
parents of low-performing students in the resource allocation game.  However, 
it's not a zero sum game.  When the quality of education is improved for some 
students at the expense of others, it weakens the entire system.  

It isn't enough to preserve excellence where it exists. It is necessary to 
create excellence where it does not exist.

-Doug Mann, King Field 
<http://educationright.tripod.com> 
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