I would suggest that what Eva witnesses in Randy Kelly is 25 years of saying
all those things a politician wants to say, but to be careful about the
follow-up. I suggest partisanship is coming into serious play in this
dialogue.

But I also agree with Alan on the interference in appointments processes.
However, one may complain, but still expect this and every party to at least
try to influence appointments as much as elections. It's the way of the
world. Can't really blame them for trying.

Andy Driscoll
Saint Paul
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"The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who, in times of
moral crisis, remain neutral" --Dante

> From: "Eva Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:06:49 -0600
> To: "Alan Shilepsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Mpls] DFL/Mpls.: Central Comm. meeting, Thurs. 27 Dec.
> 
> At 02:19 PM 12/15/2001 -0600, Alan Shilepsky wrote:
>> I'm disappointed to see that certain DFL Central Committee members
>> (including some friends of mine) saw fit to demand that a non-routine
>> meeting of the Committee be called (between Christmas and New Years!) to
>> protest the appointment of a non-DFL'er to a City Council committee
>> chairpersonship.
> I agree with Alan on this one.  I was especially disappointed to see newly
> elected Park Board member Marie Hauser's name on this list.  I voted for
> Marie because I thought she would be a thoughtful voice on the park board,
> not because she was going to spend her time trying to keep the DFL insider
> control freak game going.
> 
>> This shows: 1) a disdain for the non-partisan local election process, 2)
>> a failure to accept the City DFL's poor track record in getting its
>> initially endorsed 2001 candidates elected (I can think of 5 out of 13
>> failures this year), and 3) a presumption to impose their DFL insider
>> judgement on our newly elected City Council members and their
>> soon-to-be-elected President.
> This whole wrangling over the Council Presidency seems to be bringing out
> the worst in the City Council members.
> 
>> This special meeting call demonstrates why many in this city voted this
>> year for change from the one-party, insider-dominated city politics of
>> the past. 
> 
> That's what I'd like to see.  It also shows why we need to get some
> Republicans elected to the City Council.
> 
> Did folks hear RT on Almanac yesterday?  He was on alongside Randy Kelly in
> St Paul.  I have to say Kelly sounded much more articulate and full of
> concrete ideas than did Rybak, who kept on repeating his agenda was
> "housing, housing, housing."  From talking with Mark Stenglein at the
> Property Rights meeting, I understand that RT is lobbying the County hard
> to subsidize a stadium.  Now I wonder if RT thinks we are all stupid -- and
> don't understand that increased moneys from the county for a stadium
> ultimately come out of our pocketbooks.
> 
> Zimmerman said a rather odd thing during this meeting.  He said the Sept 11
> attacks could have done "real damage" if they had gone after the Montecello
> or Prairie Island Nuclear plants.  I personally thought that a bit much --
> those attacks did do quite a bit of real damage and murdered thousands of
> people in New York City.  I'm sure that people who have friends and loved
> ones who were victims of that attack don't question the reality of it.
> 
> Eva
> Eva Young
> Central
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