Well, Susan Herridge certainly did a fine job pointing out all of the
weaknesses. 

Yep, democracy is flawed, yet a bunch of us still vote. Practice, practice,
practice, perhaps? How could residents be represented or direct the economic
development of their neighborhood otherwise?  Just through feedback to their
councilmember? I don't think so.

What's encouraging is how often neighborhood boards succeed in representing
the interests of the whole neighborhood. Like a good focus group. At the
very least, there are some residents given a stronger voice in the
political/economic process. The addition of making decisions about actual
money legitimizes their stake beyond tokenism. And, the practice of getting
diverse interests to articulate a common vision make us a wiser and more
wily citizenry. An increasingly handy tool as our cityscape evolves.
 
I think a key is in shoring up the organizational structure of neighborhood
groups, and putting them in a better position to succeed.  Like a
neighborhood cafe, the board and staff, (and city) need to make it an
attractive, welcoming place to come chew on some tasty issues and not get
heartburn. I think the organizations that have the most trouble with staying
in business, are the ones that don't realize they are a business in the
first place. Businesses succeed because someone has a solid vision, develops
a good plan, manages the money, hires and retains a good staff, and adapts
to a changing market.

I think we would be sad if our neighborhood organizations went out of
business. Where would we go for our meeting fix? This virtual forum just
isn't the same.

-- 
Dan Nordley

Cooper

The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.



> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:27:09 EST
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Mpls] of neighborhoods, NRP, fiefdoms and participatory government
> 
> After having read the posts of James Jacobsen, Dan Nordley and Paul Lohman
> about how we might characterize neighborhood organizations both before and in
> the wake of NRP (fiefdoms, or the last bastion of participatory democracy?)
> I would like to respond with some observations of my own, based,  I will
> admit, on my somewhat limited experience with three neighborhood
> organizations here in the southwest corner of Minneapolis.
> 
> I suspect that my concerns will be moderately to wildly unpopular among most
> of the readers on this list, but I trust you all to critique my ideas and not
> moi.  (lest Mr. Brauer swoop in and scold, crow-like).  And please, if those
> of you who live in the same, or other parts of the city have different
> experiences than mine,  I would really like to hear about them.
> 
> Although Mr. Jacobsen purports to avoid neighborhood organizations
> altogether, it does seem as though his extremely jaundiced view of the
> actions and motivations of neighborhood groups in total were engendered by
> the group that he encountered  on the West Bank of the University  27 years
> ago.  I am somewhat in sympathy with that because my ever-so-slightly
> jaundiced view of the NRP/neighborhood organizations is very much colored by
> an unfortunate run -in with a wrong-headed neighborhood group who could not
> have been more parochial in their outlook, or more exclusionary in their
> attitude and actions ( I should hasten to say that this is NOT the group
> which runs the Lynnhurst organization, in my home neighborhood,  today.  It
> was a different neighborhood, about 8 or 9 years ago. Other than that, all
> identities shall remain anonymous in order to protect the innocent.)
> 
> So I struggle sometimes not to judge the neighborhood groups of today by my
> experiences in the early days of NRP.  I do realize that giant strides have
> been made in terms or regularizing operating processes, funding, and
> providing competent staff support.  As well as strides in attracting
> diligent, bright and community-spirited folks to serve on the various boards
> and committees.  And allowing folks who have a beef with the process their
> day in court.
> 
> But here are my concerns:
> 
> 1.  The neighborhood groups are touted as grassroots democracy at its best.
> But at best, how much of the  neighborhood actually participate in any part
> of the process?  In my experience, Board openings are typically filled by
> gentle arm-twisting amongst the small group of people who have been
> volunteering along the way.  I have never participated in an election where
> there were more candidates than there were open slots.    Unless there is a
> burning issue that brings out folks against and in favor, (as Lynnhurst
> experienced during the recent brouhaha on the Boulevard mixed-use housing
> project) the board meetings are usually populated by the Board, and just a
> few hardy souls who love the process. Or perhaps those hardy souls are
> actually the guest speakers for the evening.  Attendance of one hundred folks
> or more at this sort of event would be an absolute coup, and only achieved by
> packaging it with fun and games for the kids, free food and high-interest
> speakers.  
> 
> So is, at most,  one or two hundred folks coming out to vote for a board
> enough?  And what about input from the neighborhood for the myriad of
> decisions that take place along the way?  Is there enough to call it truly
> participatory democracy?   I realize for those who are faithful to the
> process and do participate, that it seems frustrating and insulting to
> critique their efforts.  Flyers are sent out, posters posted, and e-mail
> reminders fly.  Anyone who wants to participate has ample opportunity to do
> so.  But still, it doesn't quite set right to me that so few do.
> 
> The neighborhood group with whom I did battle lo those many years ago used a
> poorly written survey to the neighborhood with a response rate of less than
> 2% to justify many of their questionable decisions and actions.  Today, there
> are straw polls and "dot-mocracies" and other methods for gathering input
> from the community, but it still, in my mind, is just a fancy way of taking
> input only from those few who have the time and energy to show up to a
> meeting.  Which then could allow the process to be dominated by a single
> issue, or simply by the small group who shows up, perhaps with a specific
> agenda .  (it could be a great agenda that you agree with.. and then its easy
> to swallow.. but wait until its not.. )
> 
> I remember thinking that if the original NRP guidelines had included, as a
> requirement, that the neighborhood groups use professional research
> techniques (qualitative methods for determining the areas of interest to the
> 'hood and quantitative techniques for capturing the feedback of a
> STATISTICALLY PROJECTABLE sample of the neighborhood,) then we'd be in much
> better shape to say that the actions/direction of the Board and Committees
> really were reflecting the wishes of the greater community.  So we'd be
> capturing the concerns of the elderly lady who is afraid to go out to a
> meeting, at night, and the working couple with young children who are too
> bushed to do likewise, and the young singles who don't yet have enough
> interest, or perhaps too active a social life to attend neighborhood
> meetings.. In short, we'd capture the concerns of the community as a whole.
> 
> Many neighborhood board and NRP committee members take great pains to solicit
> and accept feedback from their community - they feel it is extremely
> important to do so. But lets face it, they are not elected officials with the
> same compensation and same obligations, as say, city council members.  In my
> experience, they do not door-knock or have regular "coffee times" with
> constituents.  They typically do not attend block parties (other than their
> own) or other community and church meetings to hear what the neighborhood
> concerns are.  They make themselves available as best they can in the course
> of their daily lives, but they all have other lives:   jobs, families -
> things that keep them busy and keep the input from the community mostly
> "inbound", and somewhat limited.
> 
> 2.  The money, honey.  In the current state of a horrendous budget shortfall
> - I've heard a minimum of $15 million to the city, maybe more. .. I have to
> ask the hard question.  How much money do we want parceled out to the
> individual neighborhood groups to work with, when aggregated as a whole, that
> money might make a considerable difference in shoring up the deficit in key
> areas, or making a significant contribution to, say, affordable housing or
> other areas in which I have to believe that individual neighborhoods will
> struggle to implement effective programs?
> 
> If we take housing, or affordable housing as an example ( and perhaps some of
> the NRP specialists on the list can enlighten me.. do phase 2 NRP guidelines
> call for a certain percentage of the dollars to go into affordable housing,
> or into housing?  ... I've heard it explained both ways).
> 
> How would the neighborhood groups actually deal with it?   Setting up loan
> programs for exterior renovation ( an example of a "housing" project,) I
> would imagine, is a piece of cake compared to attempting  to stimulate
> affordable housing projects within their community.  Does one give the pot of
> money to the first developer that comes calling?  Or save it to parcel out to
> developments that may not materialize?   Do the neighborhood groups have the
> expertise to evaluate proposals and assign monetary support on their merits?
> Do they have the knowledge and contacts to evaluate possible sites within the
> 'hood and approach developers proactively?
> 
> [ these questions are not merely rhetorical.  I truly am interested to hear
> if neighborhood groups out there have successfully developed this capacity.
> I do not rule out the possibility that, with people of goodwill, the
> expertise to handle these sorts of projects can be purchased, or acquired and
> rather quickly, if needed.  It just seems like a long shot to me]
> 
> If it were merely a question of intelligence, dedication and insufficient
> exposure to the political process to be corrupted, then I would say, by all
> means, give the money to the neighborhoods.  My early experience aside, I
> have been  uniformly impressed by the quality of virtually  all of the Board
> members or neighborhood participants that I know- in that case, I agree
> completely with Dan Nordley's assessment of their virtues.  And in any case,
> you stack them up against the past slate of distant, power-hungry, corrupt or
> jail-bound City Council members, and it ain't hard to shine.
> 
> But the issues are complicated, and in many cases the best solutions should
> stretch beyond  neighborhood boundaries.  Understanding and moving forward
> requires an understanding of city processes that are captured by only a few
> of the most policy-wonkish of neighborhood activists.  And the time involved
> could easily overtax the limits of essentially a volunteer corps.
> 
> The development of a strong, coherent sense of neighborhood identity, and the
> influx of bright, dedicated community activists is one of the very best
> things that has come out of the NRP process.  And I suppose that we captured
> folks of that caliber because there was real money, that could make a real
> difference to the neighborhoods,  at their disposal.  And the improvement in
> process and support has been profound, over the years of NRP phase 1.    I'm
> just not sure its enough to justify the diversion of significant funds to
> high caliber volunteer groups during a time of excruciating budget shortfall
> to the city.
> 
> OK, now I'm gonna duck...
> 
> Susan Herridge
> Lynnhurst 
> love my neighborhood, and its local governance, but..
> 
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