In a message dated 2/19/02 10:26:20 AM Central Standard Time, 
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   I want to stress that I want Nicollet-Ace to do well  in that
 location. They should know that there are studies that show that parking
 lots in urban areas actually HURT businesses.
   
 (Snip) Keith says; The local Ace Hardware folks live and breathe the 
business they have been in for decades, day in and day out. It is likely they 
speak with every customer that crosses the threshold of their store. They 
hear every comment and critique their customers toss at them. And they make 
conclusions based on up close and personal, hands-on sensory input. The 
owners and employees pick up trash, clear snow, receive semitrailer loads of 
supplies (probably through the back or side). They help carry out sold items 
and carry in repair items. They do this and more, around their site, over and 
over; for days, weeks, months, years and decades.
    They need more parking, they have concluded. They may not even know that 
side-lot parking lots are indeed approved by modern urban planners. They may 
not know that parking areas at the front of the lot, with the building set at 
the back of the lot, is the "suburban style" that is frowned upon by modern 
urban planners. That style is, I believe, prevalent at Nicollet and Lake St. 
and supposedly "unfriendly" to pedestrians. 
    But, hold everything, cause Ken Avidor has found a study somewhere 
"...that show that parking lots in urban areas actually HURT businesses." 
  
      (Snip) Back to Ken below
     The most successful Twin Cities neighborhood business districts
 (Linden Hills, Saint Anthony Park) are ones that maintain an unbroken
 streetscape and restrict parking to the
 rear of the stores. Parking lots are a boring blight. Studies show that
 drivers slow down in a business districts with intact storefronts and
 speed up in parking lot-blighted business districts (Picture Nicollet
 and Lake Street...plenty of parking, but not a nice place to stroll and
 browse.)
 
     A better solution to the parking problem is to reserve the space in
 front of the store for carry-out service like they do at supermarkets.
 I'm sure there are other solutions.
    
    (Snip) OK Ken, I will park in front of the neighbors house up the street 
or around the corner. I will walk to the store. When I am done I will walk 
down the block and retrieve my car and pull it up to the "carry-out" area. 
But, human nature being what it is, if four other shoppers decide to park in 
that area and just "run in"; what comment will I offer my Nicollet-Ace 
Hardware hosts? And how often will I come back? Also, what about a few spaces 
for the humble folks who live upstairs?
   
 (Snip) Back to Ken
     Many of the people who support Nicollet-Ace are  assuming that
 Nicollet Hardware knows what it's doing because they are business
 people. The business people at Enron, Global Crossing and K-mart said
 they knew what they were doing too. Rushing important desisions without
 a proper hearing is exactly how we end up with "biggy-sized" mistakes.
  
 (Snip) Keith says; I just want a place to park, not an end-run or global 
crossing through a K-Mart sized, suburban style parking lot. I am Positive 
the hardware folks know when they need more parking at the site they tend and 
nurture everyday. They know their needs far better then you, I, or a study.
   Keith's poetry: Wave all PC flags, and salute social justice; When we 
double park at Ace, I hope they                                               
    don't bust us. (See below)
     
 (Snip) Ken continues-
 Will those public officials who ran on a platform supporting
 livable cities, the environment, social justice and affordable housing
 have some faith in  those ideals and stand up to  this example of the
 Old Way of Thinking that has failed us time after time after time?
 
 Ken Avidor
 Kingfield
 
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  Keith Reitman, Hey, is that Ken double parked up ahead?, NearNorth
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