In a message dated 3/12/02 10:43:13 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
What's different is that some Minneapolis residents are bypassing the
traditional information sources, like the Star Tribune, and working together
to keep informed and active on issues of interest to them in their
community. We pick the issues we're interested in and we provide enough
context and support for action to result from discussion. The technology
bypasses the people who are used to framing public discourse.
Were I Doug Grow, I might not be happy about that either.
This form of communication is revolutionary. That's another uncontroversial
truth. In a revolution, some people lose power as others gain it. Perhaps
the Star Tribune is concerned about losing their monopoly on the public
discourse, especially when it comes to issues that really matter
economically to them. Like, say for instance, a new ballpark or two.
>>
Keith says; Doug Grow must have already moved on. He made his point. He is
not a reporter of the news. He is a commentator; a common tator. More likely
it would be a Strib reporter, such as "whats-his-name" who comments on this
list from time to time, who could feel a tad pinched by the free and speedy
movement of information on this list. When I called him on some
half-the-truth reporting that I perceived, he responded with name calling. I
bring you the archival material. I sign all my posts with the salutation:
Keith Reitman, NearNorth. Whats-his-name says "Because there are not enough
hours in the day to keep up with posts from the prolific PennBroKeith, it had
escaped my notice...(etc)" (He acknowledges reading my posts.) He then starts
calling me "BRO". I have to believe he is conflicted; he is paid " to spell
names correctly", not namecall. He does say, '' Elimination is the essence of
journalism, Bro..." Let's try harder to include the news in the journalism.
Keith Reitman, NearNorth
[Mpls] NRP rally Candidate's Forum/Reporter's omission/"The News" w/Revision
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Tue Feb 12 20:13:01 2002
In a message dated 2/8/02 10:42:30 PM Central Standard Time, PennBroKeith
writes:
<< Up until that point, all candidate debates had included only the "big
four" candidates and not the gaggle of others who had legitimately
registered. Polite and boring was the sanitized debate format and outcome.
Till that magic evening, when all candidates present got a chance to share
their ideas and debate, including Leslie Davis/Tree climber for free speech.
(SNIP)
It is ironic that the reporter in attendance for the Star Tribune (one
sponsor of the debate/huge fighter for free speech) declined to report this
important occurrence in the article he wrote the next day. Steve Brandt, what
policy or reason had you leave this detail out of your article? It was a
watershed, and readers should have been told.
There is a large military cannon in front of the armory over NorthEast.
It is pointed toward downtown to the SouthWest. There was a rumor that the
cannon was to be fired that night, after the rally, toward City Hall. Little
did we know how loud would be the KABOOM of that year's city elections. How
glad and hopeful many are today.
Keith Reitman, supporting free speech, NearNorth
>>(2nd request-Keith)
Still waiting so I repeat: "Steve Brandt, what policy or reason had you
leave this detail out of your article? It was a watershed, and readers should
have been told." I look forward to your explanation here.
Keith
Reitman, NearNorth
[Mpls] Re neighborhood debate
Steve Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sat Feb 16 19:26:00 2002
Because there are not enough hours in the day to keep up with posts from
the prolific PennBroKeith, it had escaped my notice until a couple of days
ago that he had posted a public query to me on the Minneapolis Issues
list. He asked why I had not noted the inclusion of several mayoral
candidates in the Sept. 6 candidate forum who had been excluded from
previous fora.
The answer, Bro, is that my role in the mayoral campaign was limited
mostly to covering a couple of debates specific to issues I cover as a
neighborhoods reporter. Thus I can't say that I tumbled to the earth-shaki
ng nature of the inclusion of a couple of added candidates. We can debate
offline whether mentioning the indefatigable Leslie Davis from 6th to 5th
place or Bill McGaughey from 12th to 11th. By the way, if Mr. Davis has
conceded the primary, perhaps he could take down his sign from the 35th
St. entrance to 35W where it's illegally placed.
It's possible, Bro, that even had I been aware of the epochal nature of
the incluson of more than the Favored Four that might still have not
reported their comments. Elimination is the essence of journalism, Bro,
meaning that condensing two hours of debate into 17 inches means lots of
stuff gets left out. Elimination is also the essence of elections.
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