>> The fact that we have people defending these bastards,
>> for whatever reason, sickens me..really.
The fact that Swift assume that anyone is defending pedophiles, because we
aren't totally convinced from the evidence he provided that this is a
pedophile site is rather interesting.  When illegal activity on yahoo's
site is brought to their attention, they do have the responsibility to
report it.  However, a list that could be a social list -- and a lesbian
list with that description would be a social list -- not a list for
predators -- should not be targeted.  Ever since I've gotten yahoo
messenger, I've been getting comeon messages from men who don't even know
me -- do I post the content of those messages to this list, to try to say
this behavior represents the way all straight men behave.  Should I be
reporting them to the FBI -- because for all these idiots know, I could be
under age?  No, I just ignore and delete them.    

Also, Swift didn't respond to my point about abuse in the Boy Scouts of
America and the churches.  The fact that 10% of those arrested were from
the clergy is a problem -- and it's also a real problem that churches seem
to react to these things not by reporting the perpetrators to get them
investigated criminally -- but rather just transfer the problem to a
different parrish.  Swift did mention that the Priest pedophiles were a big
problem -- but he didn't talk about how the hiararchie in the church
allowed this stuff to go on, and didn't want to hear about it.    

>Watch your tongue! The word "bastard" is a long-standing epithet used to 
>hurt children whose parents through no fault of the child were not married 
>at their birth. It is a form of psychological child abuse and a civil 
>discussion is no place for such filth.
This term -- which I don't think is really appropriate for this list is
also used in general just to refer to bad nasty people.  

>No one here has defended pedophilia that I'm aware of. Are you aware that 
>the age of consent in Minnesota is 16 unless the adult is in a position of 
>power over the younger person (MN State Statute 609.345). At age 16 we 
>still might call someone a "boy" (and they might consider themselves one 
>as well), but we generally regard them as being capable of making their 
>own determinations of who to sexually partner with. Without evidence to 
>the contrary, why should I assume this group is not meant for legal 
>activities, such as chatting or for people for whom it is legal to have 
>sex with each other to meet?
Or perhaps for social purposes.  Have Swift ever thought that gay kids
might want to find other kids -- and adults to socialize with?  And Gay
kids aren't welcome in the Boy Scouts -- we all know that.  

>Because accusing the gay community of pedophilia, "recruiting", and a host 
>of other similar practices is a timeworn approach by antigay special 
>interests to prevent anyone from speaking out on behalf of the homosexual 
>population, I think it would behoove you to make it clear that you are not 
>doing the same.
I just wonder if Swift would oppose any public funding of District 202 --
which is a drop in center for gay youth -- located in Minneapolis.  I know
he is vocally against the Out for Equity project in the St Paul Schools --
and I assume he would feel the same way about similar projects in the
Minneapolis Schools.    

>In Minnesota *tonight* some 3,000 kids are without homes. The largest 
>group of them in Minneapolis. Some of them gay children kicked out of 
>their homes. Odds are high that many will be approached within 48 hours of 
>becoming homeless by someone seeking to exploit them sexually. They are 
>extremely vulnerable. And you want us to spend time complaining to Yahoo! 
>based on your unfounded accusations against one group they carry, while 
>the young people who are in real danger *right now* go ignored?
That's a real problem -- so called "Christian" parents kicking gay
teenagers out of their homes because they are gay.  

Regarding the group for the married and looking crowd -- doesn't that
behavior by adults hurt children -- if these marriages include children?
Or is this another example of where it's gay people's fault -- for somehow
interfering with these straight marriages.  I still don't quite get the
connection.  Where is a GLAIL group (Gays and Lesbians Against Immoral
Lifestyles) when you need one?  Oh, but we've got to "defend marriage" by
preventing any local or state government from offering employees domestic
partner benefits.  

Not to mention that a fair percentage of the crowd that goes to Loring Park
trying to pick up male prostitutes are married men, living in the suburbs,
and when talking to others in their professional life will bash those evil
gay people.  These creeps pay more for unprotected sex also.  

Eva
Eva Young
Minneapolis
Eva
Eva Young
Central Neighborhood
Minneapolis
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