OK, folks, enough! Let's debate this issue on the basis of facts, not
nastiness or gratuitous labeling. Minneapolis-Issues has a rule
(http://www.e-democracy.org/mpls) that asks:

4. No insults, threats, and inflamed speech for the sake of personal
argument are allowed.

I interpret many of the adjectives below as falling under insult &
inflammatory. 

I know there are very strong, legitimate opinions on this issue. We want all
sides here. However, a condition of membership is that you restrain your
most inflammatory impulses for the purpose of keeping everyone at the table
to hash out the issue. That does not mean you can't say something is wrong -
it does mean you exercise some restraint in the hopes of maintaining a
fact-based discussion.

If members want calm discussion, they have to model that behavior. If you
don't do so, warnings and possible expulsion can follow. But I prefer
occasional group rule reminders to further self-policing.

David Brauer
List manager




on 5/14/02 11:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> My hat is off.
> 
> Mr. Brown and Luce are very, very good at changing the subject, statistical
> obfuscation, name calling, and narcissistic moral preening. I know I'm not
> the first to receive their fine-tuned disdain and lofty disapproval, and
> will likely not be the last.
> 
> 

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