I spoke to Rep. Neva Walker about this. Neva did some legislative 
research and found that there were so many similar bonding funds for 
nonprofit and religious groups over the past few years that she and the 
legislative aide didn't have the time to list them out.

Churches with big "youth ministries" do a huge amount of work with kids 
in after school and summer programs (ball teams, going to camp, bus 
trips to other cities and state parks, etc.). The kids who come to the 
programs are not required to be members of the 
church/synagogue/ashram/whatever. Churches have, as a consequence, 
lobbied for funding to subsidize this type of programming. Yes, if your 
kid goes to these programs he/she will be given a dose of whatever 
religion has the basketball court or soccer field. There is, however, a 
thin line in places between the belief structure of any one religion and 
the cultural norms of the society in which a specific church resides and 
is integral to. Playing fair is common to all religions, as is don't 
take things and don't hurt people. Surrogate parenting is another part 
of what they do--cross the street at the light, look both ways, watch 
where you're going, be aware of your surroundings. Your kids won't be 
hurt by that reminder either. They'll get much the same from the 
Minneapolis Park system's employees. But the parks cannot handle all the 
great number of children we have, so these churches are picking up the 
slack. They're not getting money to instruct kids in religion, but to 
keep them positively occupied and give them experiences they might not 
otherwise get--like Outward Bound

loki anderson wrote:

>  How sad that a bonding line item gets passed
>with inner city DFL support for a youth center that
>has religious programs. The same folks who normally
>foam at the mouth and get positively Madisonian in
>defense of governmental nonpromotion of religion
>suddenly lose their way. 
>
Politics, allegedly the art of the compromise, is apparently weighing 
the "bad"--mixing politics with religion--against the "good"--have kids 
positively occupied all their waking hours. The churches, et.al. 
apparently have agreed to lighten up on the religion during sports and 
trips and whatever.

I grew up in an area about as big as south Minneapolis where the 
majority were Catholic during a time when the Catholic Church forbad 
going into any other kind of church or synagogue or mosque. We were told 
not to hang out with non-catholics. It wasn't difficult, catlikers ruled 
on Price Hill. I got into the habit of cutting mass on Sunday mornings 
after I discovered a tiny black Baptist church not far from St. Leo's. I 
would sit under the window box in front of the church and listen to the 
wonderful music coming out of that church. It made a nice change from 
Gregorian chant--which is really cool too. So five days a week I went to 
mass and on Sunday I went to a rockin concert under the flower box. Then 
one day the minister caught me at it and walked me to St. Leo's saying 
they would worry about me if I didn't go to mass. To this day, I have no 
idea what Baptists "believe," but I can pick out a well sung hymn at 30 
paces.

WizardMarks, Central

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