I'll begin by saying that I do not share some of
Wizard's and Brandon's opinions about the American
economic model (also, since it is the AMERICAN
economic model and not the MINNEAPOLIS economic model,
this is an inappropriate place to discuss it...get the
hint?).
With that said, I'd like to offer a few points:
James Jacobsen wrote:
>Not too many convenience stores and other businesses
>aren't looking for help. You (anybody) first have to
>adopt a conscientious (look it up in dictionary, or
>ask an older person) attitude about doing what you
>are to get paid for, like showing up for work, doing
>what the job requires, etc. Nothing and nobody is
>going to get rid of poverty for you but yourself, and
>by honest means. While I tend to agree that poverty
>is generally not solved just by collective action, I
>think that your comment here is wholly inappropriate.
I know Brandon and can tell you he knows the
definition of conscientious. Phrases like "look it up,
or ask an older person" is ridiculous invective that
serves to void your argument and is incredibly
disrespectful. Are you claiming that Brandon's age
makes him less qualified to disagree with your
opinion? No need to answer, just asking. In any case I
would suggest that you stop.
Having said that, I can show you reams of
economic data from all sides of the aisle that says
that Minneapolis is an expensive place to live. So
expensive, in fact, that a job at a 7-Eleven store
tends not to make ends meet -- ESPECIALLY if you have
a family or other obligations. So: "go get a job" is
an overly simplistic answer to a complex problem.
Wizard writes:
>"The government does have to get rid of its barriers
>to people working their way out of poverty by
>removing laws and practices that further inculcate a
>culture of poverty and adding elements which support
>those with at least a partial grip on how to move out
>of poverty. (Like, we might want to educate children
>of color, make sure they're fed every day, stuff like
that.)
"Hey! Nice idea -- and one that lends itself to a
Minneapolis issue! Study after study shows that kids
with stuff to do after school tend to steer clear from
drugs and also tend to delay sexual activity, not to
mention are able to socialize with other kids and
spend time developing life skills. How are the
Minneapolis Public Schools and Park Board working
together to provide programs for these kids,
especially at-risk kids and those who live North
Minneapolis? As far as the rest of this discussion
goes, I don't care how the Kennedys got wealthy
(Wizard's post) or what your neighbours are doing at
noon (James). Let's stick to substantive issues.
Patrick
Dinkytown
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