If anyone disagrees that IRV is superior to our
current system, please point out how and why.

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Take a three candidate election, 1 liberal, one conservative, one 
independent. For simplicity, use 12 voters (in real life you would 
need to expand the percentages)
 
5 prefer the liberal candidate, with the independent candidate as a 
second choice.
4 prefer the conservative with the independent as a second choice.
2prefer the independent with the conservative as a second choice.
1prefer the independent with the liberal as a second choice.


Clearly the independent would be the most agreeable choice with all 
voters. However the independent looses in the first round of instant 
run-off because they received the lowest initial votes (lowest 
primary votes). The people who voted for the independent has their 
second choice votes instead, and one of the others get elected. 

This is just one simple example of that system failing in the almost  
identical way our current vote for 1 system would. 
In the current system, people would say the independent wont win, and 
split that vote among the other two, with a resulting statistical 
near dead heat much like republicans and democrats currently have in 
the nation.

When you run the numbers in various ways, most of the time BOTH 
systems works, sometimes BOTH don't. But as a whole, I don't see IRV 
as superior because it has as many failings as the vote for 1 system 
we currently have-at least when I did the math. (Might not be saying 
much there)

But I think you would need to look at the probability of each failing 
and compare those. In practice each system will work AND fail in 
different ways.

For the city to look at adopting a new system, I would like failure 
comparison (since that's what we're trying to fix) not just 
advantages of each, or the failures of one and not the other. 


Tom Holtzleiter
Kingfield
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