On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Jim Mork wrote:

> It is disheartening to see a discussion that has
> gone on SO long with so little productive
> accomplishment.  So many people claim teachers
> don't teach well,  yet almost NEVER do I see the
> slightest hint of what this "inefficiency" is
> about.

There are a number of institutional problems in the
public schools, of which ineffective teaching is
but one.
 
> How can we hold a learned discussion of teaching
> if we don't even have a clue what good teaching
> is?  Some claim that offering vouchers to allow
> kids to go to schools with higher test scores
> would solve the problem. But until you have
> DEFINED the problem, how do you know its true? 
> Perhaps the better school only works due to some
> aspect of its student population.

The problem is that many students fail to learn
[problem defined]. That is, they progress through 
primary and middle school unable to read, do simple 
mathematics, or speak fluent English [problem
specified]. Teaching plays a role in this,
but the primary problem is structural. There's
not much that you can teach a student in a 
middle school history class if they cannot read
and not much you can teach them in a math class
if they can't add, subtract, multiply and divide.
One reason that these conditions exist is because
our district does not insure that students master
basic skills before proceeding to the next grade
level, i.e., they still social promote students beyond
their academic abilities [problem partially explained].

These are all issues that I've dealt with in
previous posts, but let's discuss teaching specifically
for a moment. It is well known what constitutes
good teaching. This research has been around for
years, but because it tends to contradicts some 
of the current educational dogma not much is done
to implement it.

 1) Expert teachers have extensive knowledge and 
understanding of their subject matter that goes beyond
a rudimentary understanding of facts.  What
are the institutional restraints on this factor?  Most
generally, we don't test teachers on their knowledge
of their subjects.  Why not?  Because: a) Teacher
training programs haven't emphasized content
knowledge, rather they emphasize general teaching
methodology grounded in progressivist educational
philosophy (which has never been shown to be
effective empirically); b) The teachers unions have
traditionally opposed standards and the testing
of teachers.
2)  Expert teachers, from the first day of class,
establish structured and disciplined classrooms.
Through out the school year they apply the same
rules fairly and consistently. What are the 
institutional restraints on this factor? 
a) Contemporary educational philosophy holds 
that discipline and structure inhibit student 
learning.  They cite extreme examples from the 
past and fail to acknowledge research showing 
the positive outcomes of structured classrooms. 
b) Liberal public school administrators are unwilling to
tarnish their careers by supporting individual teachers
in disciplinary actions.
3) Expert teachers have extensive practical
knowledge of what works with students in a
classroom setting.  I believe that this involves
both personality and experience. What are the 
institutional restraints on this factor?  Primarily,
we don't have a good system for weeding out
the teachers who never get it.  Bad teachers 
don't quit, they just stay on till retirement.
The unions ,weak-kneed administrators, and an
unconcerned public are responsible for this
problem.

> I would be shocked if no one in education
> research has zeroed in on the reasons for poor
> school performance, but if you read the debates,
> they might as well not have.  Everyone jumps
> right to their favorite nostrum without really
> ever defining the problem for which they are
> prescribing the remedy.

If you're not shocked yet, let me know and I
can cover these issues in more detail.

Michael Atherton
http://QualityEd.US
Candidate for Minneapolis School Board
Prospect Park

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