I agree wholeheartedly with Rep. Kahn's assessment of the downtown Minneapolis bar 
closing situation. I have been downtown at 1:00AM Sunday morning and what I saw were 
large groups of belligerent young men loaded with testosterone and liquor and looking 
for trouble. The police really had their hands full just keeping the groups moving 
along so that everyone would not gather on the same street corner. I avoid downtown on 
Saturday evenings. Hennepin and Lake is as far as I go.

Bill Dooley
Kenny

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From: Phyllis Kahn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:34 PM
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Subject: [Mpls] With the regrets we all have for the death of a young
man...and whatever mistake he made or whateve


With  the regrets we all have for the death of a young man...and
whatever mistake he made or whatever he did wrong, he did not deserve to
die for it; one aspect of the situation needs further attention. The
police are quoted as saying that "the downtown area was out of control"
and "several fights broke out between  1 and 2  a.m....but that is not
uncommon after bar closing time". (STrib, 9/4).

 I have long urged a later bar closing time.  It is only too obvious
that dumping all patrons out on the street at 1:00 is a bad scene, for
both drivers and pedestrians. Cities with later or no closing times do
not have these problems. People trickle out as they get tired (or too
drunk) and have far fewer confrontations.

I have tried to change the state law and will continue to try. (I urge
those who agree to contact their legislator and the gubernatorial
candidates). However  the Mpls city council could, all by itself change
the closing hours, so that bars who wanted to let patrons nurse a drink
or eat or listen to music and not rush out could mellow out for a while.
The state law only covers sales after 1:00, the city ordinance covers
closing. It's time Minneapolis grew up and became a serious  (and 
safer) night city.

Phyllis Kahn State Rep 59B
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