>That's a pretty nasty crash! I hope there were no injuries, but the >condition of the cars makes me suspect there were. Walking on those >sidewalks will be pretty creepy now. > >I live near Hiawatha Ave. and have seen some horrible pile-ups at the >52nd street intersection (near the old Holiday station). After the last
[snip] Hiawatha speeds are rational. This doesn't mean they are safe. Just that most drivers will rationally look at the driving conditions and adjust their speeds to match the conditions. Disregarding the extreme drivers and the obsessive law-abiding types, Hiawatha is judged by most drivers to be a 45-50 MPH road. It doesn't really matter that the signs say 35 MPH. Drivers decide all the time to drive Hiawatha at just under a 45 MPH average. It's the design of the road that creates this situation: two lanes, wide shoulders, generous median, long stretches between intersections, large setbacks to adjacent buildings. All these things combine to create a situation where a rational driver will choose 45 MPH as the safe speed in this environment. The Hiawatha "freeway" situation is a good lesson in traffic calming - if only to highlight the opposite effects that result from roadway design that encourages agressive driving instead of calmed traffic. Regards, Keith Nybakke Keewaydin _______________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
