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On Thursday 17 October 2002 23:22, Mike Nelson wrote:

>   Sorry to hear of your disappointment with the interim site, but there
> is just as much if not more carpeting at this site than in the old
> library.

I realize that, but the old site had plenty of tile... as such the floor 
was finished. The interim floor is unfinished. 

>  Carpet is nice as it helps deaden a room acoustically, but beyond that
> I fail to see any real benefit from it being installed in a temporary
> space.

For whatever reason, the interim space feels "loud" to me,  and I normally 
don't hear that well. I guess years of working in skyrises has me 
expecting that cheap sectional carpet to be in a place like that rather 
than an unfinished floor. I fully understand that carpet is harder to 
clean and things like that. And really, my first day there was one of the 
first days the location was open. My comments were not entirely fair. And 
I certainly didn't want to slight the library staff-- who are amazingly 
helpful and friendly and I can barely imagine how hard this move has made 
their jobs.

>   The library is facing serious budget cuts, and this may be a good
> place to save money.

I'm pretty sure I find it confusing to hear the words "save money" in 
association with this project. I've seen a lot of new tech appearing at 
the new library, none of which looks that affordable to me.

What happened to the old auto-checkout machines that I never saw anyone 
use, and why were they replaced with new ones that I expect will also be 
largely unused? Have these machines reduced the need for checkout staff in 
any measurable quanity? I really have to say that I doubt it.

I'm also very concerned that the Library (and all City government) is 
spending a lot of money on newer computers and Windows and other 
proprietary software license fees when there are Free Software 
alternatives (please see http://www.gnu.org or http://www.debian.org for 
more information on Free Software).

As an observer I don't get a lot of information about this stuff (and I do 
try to dig for it, but my free time is limited), so I'm sorry if I'm going 
off half-cocked here, but I have to question this stuff because I think 
there are affordable, sensible solutions that have additional long term 
benefits.

> The word slipshod suggests carelessness and negligence.
> The only evidence of this I have seen is in the deplorable working
> conditions imposed on some of the employees that the public doesn't see,
> a subject I won't get into right now.

Again I want to sound as though I'm badmouthing the employees! I'm pretty 
sure that the people who've had to do the actual work of 
packing/unpacking, setting things up, dealing with an 400% increase in the 
need to help patrons find stuff, learning the new setup, etc... that those 
people are being stretched to their limits. I haven't got a single 
complaint about the librarians and other staff. 

>   Please keep in mind the fact that this place is temporary, and most of
> the people involved have never had to move a library of this size.
> They are doing their best, and most are anything but careless or
> negligent.

Most of those people probably weren't the decision-makers who chose to move 
to an interim location before plans for the new location were even 
finalized nor-- as I understand it-- financing fully secured.

>  Things could be worse. In St. Paul, everyone, including the children,
> was just S.O.L. while they renovated their central library. They saved a
> LOT of money by not having an interim site.

And I have to ask: in St. Paul had they actually gotten building plans and 
financing together for the new building before they went and closed the 
central library?

My reference to Block E was deliberate. I consider that whole thing from 
1987 to present a bona fide fiasco. I ride the bus past another location 
(the Hollman site) where the City was eager to bulldoze, but seems to be 
way behind schedule on replacing the homes they destroyed. I live less 
than a mile away from a large field of grass on a major intersection, for 
which I've seen development plans, but for which no development *at all* 
has actually been done. 

I don't think I'm off-kilter to worry that my beloved Minneapolis libraries 
will have similar problems, when they start to throw up red flags like 
being months behind on getting plans for the new building drawn up (the 
MPL site says these schematics were planned for Summer 2002).

 -michael libby (cleveland/north mpls)

p.s. list-members: please don't "cc" me when replying on-list to a post 
I've made. I don't need two copies of the same message. Thanks. :)

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