In a message dated 10/19/2002 2:44:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jim Mork writes:

<snip> 
> Michael Atherton asks about cities with
> Republican mayors:
> "U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno issued a
> written statement Monday, noting that across the
> country "homicide is at its lowest point in 33
> years." 
> 
> But according to the FBI data, released Monday,
> the city of Los Angeles had the third highest
> homicide rate in the United States during the
> first six months of 2000, with Chicago taking
> second place and New York City topping the list. 
> 
> More worrisome was the fact that Los Angeles had
> a sharp rise in murders while other major cities
> saw their rates remain stable or vary only
> slightly, officials said."
> 
> In DFL-led Minneapolis, the 1999-2000 change was
> from 47 to 50.  In 1995, the total was 95.  It is
> hard to quantify the contribution of each element
> of law enforcement, but the DFL Council hired and
> then rehired Robert Olson.  Robert Olson managed
> the police force during the drop from 95 to 47.
> This is the kind of think we longer-term
> residents look at when judging how effective our
> city government is in areas that matter.
<snip> 

     Ladies and gentlemen, the "post hoc, ergo propter hoc"
fallacy in all its glory. 
     Jim, you mentioned Houston and NYC in your original
post, and then serve up examples from LA and NYC in your
reply to Mike Atherton. Can you at least answer the 
question using both of the original cities? Changing 
examples in midstream like this might lead people to 
think you're juggling the data.
     Your comments about the police federation losing
clout because they moved out of the city may be partially correct, but like the other 
labor unions they make up for
that partially by funding and working for candidates they 
support. On the other hand, does that offset the estimated
40% of union members (nationally) that vote Republican?
     Finally, Charlie Stenvig is far enough in the past
that most current Republicans (and, I daresay, Minneapolis
voters) barely remember him. In my time here in the city,
there have only been two Republicans in the city government, 
Barbara Carlson and Dennis Schulstad, and both of them ran
as independents. So I think you're on pretty shaky ground 
if you expect the new generation of Republicans to act 
anything like Charlie Stenvig.

Kevin Trainor
Republican Candidate HD 61A
East Phillips
www.taxpayersfortrainor.org

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