"Garwood, Robin" wrote:

> I suppose the central disagreement between us is on this question: dare we
> hope?

Sure let's hope and some of us can even try to make changes, but
we should think about whether our actions result in measurable
positive effects or are only as I said, "emotional conveniences,"
as they were for Hoffman, Rubin, the SLA, etc.

Michael Atherton
Prospect Park


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