RT is indeed correct. He did not block DFL endorsement.

He actually would have won the DFL endorsement had it gone a couple of more
rounds.  We had the commanding lead, we had more delegates coming, and
Sharon's delegates were leaving.  Rick Stafford, and possibly some others,
simply out politicked and bluffed Jim Niland into accepting an adjournment
of the Convention.  I remember John Crammer and myself pleading with RT
Rybak to not listen to Niland, that Sharon was dead if she lost here, and
assuring RT that we would win if he held on for just two more votes. We were
correct.  Rick knew they had lost, but scared Jim Niland into accepting the
small victory instead of the decisive one.  That choice also probably
changed both the nature of the race and the nature of RT's first Mayoral
term. A draw was snatched from the jaws of victory by timidity.  Niland and
RT had not expected to win, so thought of it as a great victory.

John Crammer and I knew what was coming. So did anyone who came knowing the
power of the neighborhood organizers, they absolutely were expecting to win.
The night of the election victory RT in delight asked me if I could believe
it had happened.  I told him I not only believed it, I knew it would happen
from the start; on that day many months before in Roger Bargouthi's store.

The Neighborhoods and the political leaders from those Neighborhoods had
been so disturbed at even a hint of Sharon and Jackie taking their NRP
authority and centralizing it "Downtown", (to help their development
cronies). The Neighborhoods were also demanding more input into Planning and
Regulatory reform.  It is amazing, but these are the exact criticism now
partially leveled at RT, but especially aimed at the present Z&P Committee
and City Council.

Hopefully, we will get a 3rd Ward Council Member who will dedicate him or
herself to supporting "Neighborhood Empowerment".  RT you need not worry "we
are going to have few and fewer good people going into public service."  I
think more than 10 have thrown in for this race.  Our problem is the quality
of people, not the number.  We need two-year terms so that Council Members
remain responsive.  The only time they are responsive now is when they are
within a year of the next election.  It also allows less time to create the
"political favors" funding that make incumbents near impossible to remove.
Four years make CM's much more valuable to contribute to (buy) by "Political
Friends". Ward "privilege" becomes much less of a privilege if you must run
every two years.

Jim Graham,
Ventura Village



----- Original Message -----
From: Rybak, R.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: mpls-issues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:11 PM
Subject: [Mpls] Third Ward politics and endorsements


A minor clarification to an earlier post that included this statement:
"And two candidates who were perceived as
blocking DFL endorsements: Rybak and Niziolek went on to win."

I can't speak for Dan but when I was running for Mayor I did not set out to
block DFL endorsement.  I set out to win it but also said I would run in the
primary.

My goal was to respect those who spent the time to show up but also give
those who could not spend all that time, or who felt shut out, or simply did
not know about the process....a chance to also have a voice.

I did the same with the Green Party, where I showed up, made a case for
endorsement but would not be bound by it.

I can't honestly remember what I was thinking about the Republican and
Independence Parties, but if I thought the campaign had the time and money
(which we did not) I probably would have done the same for those parties,
too. (If I remember right I didn't know about the Independence Party
convention until I read about it in the paper.)

Some people may argue that this was a good strategy for a candidate like me
who seemed to have no chance of winning any of these endorsements....Even
though I did well at the DFL and Green conventions, it seemed like a long,
long shot going in.

Expedient or not, as I look back over that strategy it seems to make some
sense in a period like today when
I believe we should respect those who are active in the very time consuming
process of party/interest group endorsement....but also give voice to the
vast majority of potential voters who for whatever reason are not.

My advice to candidates in the 3rd Ward and others:
Go to the convention and the screenings, talk about your issues, make your
case to those in the process and very knowledgeable in the issues.  Even if
you lose some votes because you aren't bound by the process, you will learn
a lot, and probably pick up supporters.

(I have to say I learned so much from this process...on the phone every
night with delegates who really know their stuff, who gave me great
ideas....Some people trash this process as litmus tests and ideological
straight jackets but to me it was one of the best learning processes I've
ever gone through.

(I should also add that the fact that I came within a very few votes of
actually winning the DFL endorsement...in spite of running against an
incumbent and in spite of saying I would not abide by the endorsement and in
spite of very strong opposition from labor... proves wrong all those people
who so willingly trash the DFL as having a closed process that is not being
open to new ideas and candidates.  Most delegates I've come in contact with
are smart, have minds of their own and are not led around by the nose by any
interest group.)

Then no matter what happens at the convention or screening, go door to door,
try to identify the people out there who haven't been part of the process,
go into detail with those who are very knowledgeable but turned off....and
try to excite those who have given up, or who just aren't paying attention.

This may not be the perfect world for parties and interest groups....but it
isn't so bad for them either.  They can grill the candidates about issues
that matter to them and if the candidates respond in a way they like, the
groups and parties can swing their support behind them.  The candidates who
want their support have to respond to them but the candidates should not
feel obliged to drop out if they don't get endorsed.

(For example, the Central Labor Union and several other unions told me they
were endorsing Mayor Sayles Belton before I even sat down to screen. I used
the screenings as ways for me to give my views on labor and learn something
along the way. Some life AFSCME were very engaged and asked sincere
questions....Others like the Central Labor Union were polite enough, gave me
a little pat on the head and sent me on my merry way. Their strategy to
endorse one person before they even heard from me was not, in my view, very
smart, but I hope my victory in spite of this has helped illustrate for them
and others that there is a danger in not giving emerging voices a fair
chance to make their case...If candidates see this kind of behavior from
interest groups trying to shut you out, feel very free to use this example
as a cautionary tale.....It's about time we were rid of this old style
politics.)

I go into all this to encourage the candidates running in the Third Ward to
show some respect for those who spend all that time to learn about issues
and show up....Go to the conventions and the screenings.  It can't hurt you,
you can learn a lot, all but the most doctrinaire will listen to you
and...if you're really good, and/or lucky...you may even get endorsed.

But also show respect for those who aren't in the room.  Those people who
are at home, or driving their kids to something, or working, or volunteering
on something else worth while or who simply don't know about the
event....also deserve a chance to be heard.

R.T. Rybak
East Harriet
Happy it's not ME going door to door at the Holidays and thinking we all
have to do a lot to make this all work better or we are going to have few
and fewer good people going into public service.



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